From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Gwobull Warbling debunked, again
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 10:32:03 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-06-03 10:20, JTEM wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> Â JTEM wrote:
>>> Â Â Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-03 09:35, JTEM wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/reel/980075903560598
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that it matters, or that Gwobull Warblers are capable
>>>>> of listening... or thinking... anything... but...
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no Gwobull Warbling what so ever. Your AGW
>>>>> fantasy is just that:Â A fantasy.
>>>
>>>> How does any of that relate to the topic under discusion:
>>>
>>> Okay. So you're retarded to such an extant that you want to
>>> know HOW the fact that there is no Gwobull Warbling, that
>>> everything the media, the so called "Science" says is
>>> bullshit relates to the fact that you are citing that same
>>> media, the same bullshit "Science" as proof that natural gas
>>> is awful?
>>>
>>> It's it's awful, let's do Europe an enormous favor and keep
>>> our natural gas -- ALL OF OUR NATURAL GAS -- and use what we
>>> used to export as a motor fuel.
>>>
>>> Â Â Â Â Â ...suddenly natural gas becomes awesome, even vital.
>>>
>>> For Europe.
>
>> Even if all that was true,
>
> It's all true. And it means you have ZERO basis for anything you
> "Argue."
I'm not discussing whether or not global warming is real or not in this
sub-thread. I'm also not discussing the childish need to write it as
"Gwobull Warbling".
>
>> it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't wind power that was most
>> responsible for Texas's troubles during ice storm Uri.
>
> It was wind & solar, absolutely. They didn't "Revise" the
> narrative, make it about NG, until later. It's literally
> impossible for it to have disrupted NG.
>
I'm sorry, but no.
The articles already posted describe precisely how it happened.
> Dude, seriously, it gets a shit ton colder here in New England than
> it does anywhere in Texas... it gets a shit ton colder in places
> like Canada, and these things literally NEVER happen.
Because those places created systems that were designed for the
possibility, doofus.
>
> You are clinging to refuted sources in defense of an incredibly
> stupid notion.
<https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61563>
<https://blog.ucsusa.org/paul-arbaje/how-gas-plants-fail-and-lead-to-power-outages-in-extreme-winter-weather/>
<https://www.nrdc.org/bio/dana-ammann/winter-storm-elliott-report-highlights-risk-natural-gas-failures>
<https://www.power-eng.com/news/ferc-nerc-final-report-natural-gas-struggled-the-most-during-winter-storm-elliott/>
I like that last one especially in light of your claims about "these
things literally NEVER happen[ing]" in New England:
"âUnprecedentedâ amount of lost generation
FERC and NERC staff previously shared sobering details of the effects of
Elliott, which took place December 21-26, 2022. During that time, 1,702
generating units experienced 3,565 outages, derates or failures to
start. 825 of the units were natural gas-fired generators."
Just to put that in full context, Maine reported over 250,000 customers
without power.
Maine is still IN New England, right, loser-3?