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From: Loran <loran@invalid.net>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics
Subject: Re: Wind Turbine Foundation Failure
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2024 12:03:38 -0600
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 10:24:15 -0600, Loran wrote:
> 
>>
>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>> (look it up)
>>>
>>> ...rebutal...
>>>
>>> (look it up)
>>
>> It's on, we're now in the early stages of a Heinrich Event leading up to
>> full glaciation shortly:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1q5cW_V3M
>>
>> TRIPLE CATASTROPHE - 6000-Year Cycle Happening Now
> 
> We need to be planning FOR Climate Change instead of trying to
> mop up spilled milk, which what "Carbon Reduction" amounts to:
> Greenwashing.

Plus the absurdly low .04% of atmospheric gasses that CO2 comprises is 
an historically low number anyway.

Like in the Jurassic (abundant) flourished in a far warmer and more 
gentle climate with over 1,000 ppm CO2.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/05/03/breaking-news-the-climate-actually-changes/

"Fossil records reveal that atmospheric CO2 levels around 600 million 
years ago were about 7,000 parts per million, compared with 379 ppm in 
2005. Then approximately 480 million years ago those levels gradually 
dropped to 4,000 ppm over about 100 million years, while average 
temperatures remained at a steady 72 degrees. They then jumped rapidly 
to 4,500 ppm and guess what! Temperatures dove to an estimated average 
similar to today, even though the CO2 level was around twelve times 
higher than now. Yes, as CO2 went up, temperatures plummeted.

About 438 million years ago, atmospheric CO2 dropped from 4,500 ppm to 
3,000 ppm, yet according to fossil records, world temperatures shot 
rapidly back up to an average 72 degrees. So regardless of whether CO2 
levels were 7,000 ppm or 3,000 ppm, temperatures rose and fell 
independently.

Over those past 600 million years there have been only three periods, 
including now, when Earth's average temperature has been as low as 54 
degrees. One occurred about 315 million years ago, during a 
45-million-year-long cool spell called the Late Carboniferous period, 
which established the beginning of most of our planet's (gasp) 
coalfields. Both CO2 and temperatures shot back up at the end of it just 
when the main Mesozoic dinosaur era was commencing. CO2 levels rose to 
between 1,200 ppm and 1,800 ppm, and temperatures again returned to the 
average 72 degrees that Earth seemed to prefer.

Around 180 million years ago, CO2 rocketed up from about 1,200 ppm to 
2,500 ppm. And would you believe it? This coincided again with another 
big temperature dive from 72 degrees to about 61 degrees. Then at the 
border between the Jurassic period when T. Rex ruled and the Cretaceous 
period that followed, CO2 levels dropped again, while temperatures 
soared back to 72 degrees and remained at that level (about 20 degrees 
higher than now) until long after prodigious populations of dinosaurs 
became extinct. And flatulent as those creatures may possibly have been, 
at least there is no evidence that they burned coal or drove SUVs.

Based upon a variety of proxy indicators, such as ice core and 
oceansediment samples, our planet has endured large climate swings on a 
number of occasions over the past 1.5 million years due to a number of 
natural causes. Included are seasonal warming and cooling effects of 
plant growth cycles, greenhouse gases and aerosols emitted from volcanic 
eruptions, Earth orbit and solar changes, and other contributors with 
combined influences. Yet atmospheric CO2 levels have remained relatively 
low over the past 650,000 years, even during the six previous 
interglacial periods when global temperatures were as much as 9 degrees 
warmer than temperatures we currently enjoy.

Over the past 400,000 years, much of the Northern Hemisphere has been 
covered by ice up to miles thick at regular intervals lasting about 
100,000 years each. Much shorter interglacial cycles like our current 
one lasting 12,000 to 18,000 years have offered reprieves from bitter 
cold. Yes, from this perspective current temperatures are abnormally 
warm. By about 12,000 to 15,000 years ago Earth had warmed enough to 
halt the advance of glaciers and cause sea levels to rise, and the 
average temperature has gradually increased on a fairly constant basis 
ever since, with brief intermissions."



> So lets reduce some Carbon:
> 
> "Squad!  Commit Suicide!".
> 
> Dhu

Lol.