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From: Loran <loran@invalid.net>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: By The Way, Trump Is Not Yet A Convicted Felon - Loser Loses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:10:26 -0600
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

Alan wrote:
> On 2024-06-12 13:59, Loran wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-12 13:52, Loran wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-12 13:14, CaLaVeRa wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 2:04 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-12 12:56, CaLaVeRa wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/12/2024 10:25 AM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-12 07:55, Loran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Conviction takes place at the jury verdict.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But not the formal administration of a "felony".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That occurs *after* sentencing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And that sentencing isn't until July 11th, so this obvious bit 
>>>>>>>>>> of corruption is now out;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutor-set-congress-july-12-111025235 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON -- WASHINGTON (AP) — Manhattan District Attorney 
>>>>>>>>>> Alvin Bragg has agreed to testify before Congress on July 12, 
>>>>>>>>>> a day after former President Donald Trump’s sentencing in his 
>>>>>>>>>> hush money trial.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A spokesperson for Bragg's office confirmed Tuesday that he 
>>>>>>>>>> will appear before the House Select Subcommittee on the 
>>>>>>>>>> Weaponization of the Federal Government alongside Matthew 
>>>>>>>>>> Colangelo, the former high-ranking Justice Department official 
>>>>>>>>>> who was hired by Bragg in 2022 and helped lead the Trump 
>>>>>>>>>> investigation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...just so you know...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DUMB FUCK!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the 
>>>>>>>>> defendant at the time the conviction...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which they chose not to.
>>>>>>> But not sentencing him at the time of conviction means that the 
>>>>>>> time of conviction is definitely prior to sentencing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Point sustained.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> July 11th = sentencing date.
>>>>>
>>>>> Explain how someone can be sentenced after conviction...
>>>>
>>>> Pretty easily according to NY state law:
>>>
>>> Do you even do more than look up words, Loser-2?
>>
>> Words have meanings, please learn from the material shared here, moron.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> https://nyccriminallawyer.com/ny-criminal-system/sentencing-in-new-york/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> New York City Criminal Attorney Explains “Sentencing”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SENTENCING occurs post-conviction and can be decided by either judge or 
>>>
>>> "post-conviction" i.e. "after conviction".
>>>
>>> Let's rewrite that sentence:
>>>
>>> "SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
>>>
>>>
>>>> jury. Essentially this is the “punishment” for your conviction in a 
>>>> crime. Some crimes have what is called “mandatory” sentencing, 
>>>> meaning that the judge is limited in leniency by statutes and 
>>>> regulations.
>>>>
>>>> It’s a common misconception that juries rather than judges determine 
>>>> sentences for crimes. While this is usually true in capital 
>>>> punishment cases, it’s not true for other types of cases. Judges 
>>>> determine the punishment, or sentence, for a crime. After being 
>>>> convicted, or found guilty, of a crime, no matter how the conviction 
>>>> came about, the appropriate punishment is doled out by the judge.
>>>>
>>>> There are many different types of sentences that judges can impose 
>>>> upon you:
>>>>
>>>> – Monetary retribution in the form of fines or restitution.
>>>> – Incarceration in jail for up to one year.
>>>> – Incarceration in prison for over one year.
>>>> – Probation, which is in essence, a suspended sentence that may be 
>>>> revoked if terms are violated.
>>>> – Community service.
>>>> – Work ethic camp.
>>>> – Drug and alcohol rehabilitation.
>>>> – Deferred Adjudication / Pretrial Diversion – these programs offer 
>>>> defendants a chance to avoid a criminal record.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there are extenuating circumstances, sentencing comes almost 
>>>> immediately after a conviction when the infractions committed are 
>>>> not “serious” crimes or when the defendant enters a guilty plea. In 
>>>> criminal cases where the outcome weighs more heavily upon the 
>>>> convicted person and his/her victims, outside opinions will be taken 
>>>> into consideration before a sentence is handed down. The 
>>>> prosecution, defense and probation department will all have their 
>>>> say, and the probation department’s pre-sentence report is taken 
>>>> into consideration. Normally, a judge will consider the following 
>>>> factors before handing down a sentence:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> – Criminal history or lack thereof.
>>>> – If the defendant was the perpetrator or an accessory.
>>>> – If the crime was committed under duress or extreme stress.
>>>> – Whether or not anyone was injured or put people at risk of being 
>>>> injured.
>>>> – Amount of cruelty, destruction, or vindictiveness the defendant 
>>>> showed towards the victim.
>>>> – Remorse.
>>>>
>>>> There are different types of sentences that can be handed down by 
>>>> the judge. They include:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Concurrent sentences are ones that must be served simultaneously 
>>>> with another sentence.
>>>> Consecutive sentences are ones where the defendant is convicted of 
>>>> several counts of a crime and the punishment must be served one 
>>>> sentence after another with no “breaks.”
>>>> Deferred sentences are sentences that must be served at a later time.
>>>> Determinate sentences are exact in their time frame and the entire 
>>>> sentence must be completed before released from prison or jail.
>>>> Final sentencing concludes a criminal case, whereas interlocutory or 
>>>> interim sentencing is not.
>>>> Indeterminate sentences are ones that end in the phrasing “not more 
>>>> than” or “not less than” a specific amount of time.
>>>> Mandatory sentences are created by state law and give the judge no 
>>>> options for leniency. Every day of a mandatory sentence must be served.
>>>> Maximum sentences are used in cases where cries were committed in 
>>>> the extreme. The sentence is the limit of how long a person can be 
>>>> held for a crime before the state is required to release that person.
>>>> Minimum sentences are used to set the minimum amount of time a 
>>>> person must spend in prison before being released on parole.
>>>> Presumptive sentences are those which specify an average time frame 
>>>> to be used as a basis for the amount of time one must spend behind 
>>>> bars.
>>>> Flat sentences are ones without a minimum or maximum specified time 
>>>> frame.
>>>> Suspended sentences are ones that are postponed after a conviction 
>>>> or it may be one that postpones a sentence until it has been 
>>>> pronounced.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Before a sentence is handed down, your defense attorney will have 
>>>> the chance to speak on behalf of the defendant or you have the 
>>>> opportunity to use your own voice. The prosecution also has the 
>>>> chance to speak.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ...if they're not actually convicted until sentencing, 
>>>>
>>>> \\__YOU'RE STUCK IN A WHIRLPOOL OF YOUR OWN SEMANTIC NITWITTERY__//
>>>>
>>>> Trump will not be formally sentenced until July 11th.
>>>>
>>>> Period.
>>>
>>> "SENTENCING occurs after conviction..."
>>
>> It would be only slightly abnormal for it to occur before, much as 
>> Judge Merchan and  Bragg would have preferred it to!
> 
> Yes... ...words have meanings.
> 

When you finger them out, do poast again, creepy liarman.


But as badly as they queered their co-prosecution anything is up for 
grabs now.

Learn what mistrial means.

You have permission to look that up yourself after you clap all the 
erasers out, child.