From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: By The Way, Trump Is Not Yet A Convicted Felon - Loser Loses
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:59:33 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-06-13 08:33, Loran wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-06-12 22:45, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 21:28:51 -0700, Alan says...
>>>
>>>>>> "'Sentence on date of conviction. The court may sentence the
>>>>>> defendant
>>>>>> at the time the conviction is entered if:'
>>>>>
>>>>> They didn't.
>>>>
>>>> You missed the point.
>>>>
>>>> "At the time of conviction" is clearly separate from sentencing.
>>>>
>>>>>> <https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/cpl/part-2/title-l/article-380/380-30/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That language means beyond any doubt that sentencing is NOT when
>>>>>> you are
>>>>>> convicted. "
>>>>>
>>>>> I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you never did post the law that says someone is designated
>>>>> a "convicted
>>>>> felon" before sentencing.
>>>>
>>>> I have.
>>>>
>>>> Multiple times.
>>>
>>> I never saw it. I told you... I probably deleted "it", because you
>>> posted it
>>> when you were talking to Loran and not me. I don't read yours and his
>>> shit,
>>> because I know it's going to be nothing but nuh huhs and nuh uhs.
>>>
>>> If I missed you posting the law, just cite it... take you 2 seconds.
>>> If you can
>>> give me a few words from that post, I CAN look it up in my archives,
>>> but I have
>>> a feeling there's no LAW that addresses whether someone is designated a
>>> "convicted felon" or not, so whatever "law" you posted, probably has
>>> NOTHING to
>>> do with the point I've been trying to drill into your vacuous head.
>>>>>
>>>>> My bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll ask the more competent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for trying.
>>>>
>>>> Are you going to even try to post anything that supports your claim
>>>> that
>>>> there is a separate "judgment of guilt" that must happen?
>>>
>>> I did.
>>>
>>> Multiple times.
>>>
>>> This I know... you saw and read them, because you commented on them,
>>> so don't
>>> EVEN go where I know you want to.
>>>
>>> I did add a little bonus video from a professor of law in another
>>> reply, so...
>>
>> Nope. You posted an article by someone you claim is an expert that
>> cited no source.
>>
>
> "the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
>
> Donald Trump's sentencing is set for July 11, 2024, just days before the
> Republican National Convention kicks off. So, we're in this strange
> limbo where he's guilty of felony crimes but not quite a convicted felon
> â at least not until he gets his official sentence."
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
>
> You have issues with reading for comprehension.
To be found guilty by a jury is to be convicted.
Period.
'convict
verb [with object] | kÉnËvikt |
declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a
jury'
'conviction | kÉnËvikSHÉn |
noun
1 a formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offense,
made by the verdict of a jury'