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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Canada: Worst in the World
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 16:33:01 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-06-15 13:54, Loran wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-06-15 13:32, Loran wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-15 06:30, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:17:55 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Worst In The World': Here Are All The Rankings In Which Canada Is 
>>>>>> Now Last
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most Unaffordable Housing, Highest Cell phone Bills And Worst Rate 
>>>>>> of Acute Care Beds, To Name A Few
>>>>>
>>>>> But hey they're healthcare is "free"  I guess you really do get what
>>>>> you pay for.
>>>>
>>>> You realize that across the world, the US is only 4 places better 
>>>> than Canada, right?
>>>>
>>>> And unlike Loser-1, I'll provide the source.
>>>>
>>>> <https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Illegals mooching off the hospital and health care system in America:
>>>
>>> 30 million
>>
>> No proof.
> 
> 
> https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us/
> 
> The undocumented population in the United States could be twice as large 
> as the most commonly-used estimate, according to a research study 
> published Friday in the scientific journal Plos One.

"could be".

Got it.

> 
> The paper, led by Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, a researcher at Yale and 
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology, estimates there are 22.1 million 
> undocumented immigrants in the United States.
> 
> Fazel-Zarandi’s study compared inflows and outflows of immigrants as 
> well as demographic data. According to the report, the number of 
> undocumented immigrants could be as low as 16.5 million, or as high as 
> 29.1 million.
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Illegals in Canaduh:
>>>
>>> 20,000 - 200,000 depending on who's counting.
>>
>> No proof.
> 
> Plenty of proof.
> 
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3084189/
> 
> A guesstimate of about half a million has been proposed nationally [1, 
> 2], but this number varies among other sources which suggest anywhere 
> from 20,000 to 200,000 undocumented workers [3–5]. In 2003, Ontario’s 
> Construction Secretariat purported that there were 76,000 non-status 
> immigrants in Ontario’s construction industry alone, while other sources 
> confirmed that at least 36,000 failed refugee applicants had never been 
> deported, and another 64,000 individuals overstayed their work, student 
> or visitor visas in 2002 [5]. If it is assumed that workers are 
> accompanied by family, the numbers in Ontario would rise to the highest 
> figure previously estimated for all of Canada. With respect to 
> settlement, Vancouver, Montreal, and Toronto have the highest number of 
> undocumented migrants [6], with nearly 50% residing in Toronto alone [7].

So a bunch of estimates and you don't know which are correct.

Got it.