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From: uSoNiAn <uso@example.co>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Canada: Worst in the World
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 17:55:06 -0600
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 6/15/2024 5:47 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-06-15 16:46, CaLaVeRa wrote:
>> On 6/15/2024 5:33 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-15 13:54, Loran wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-15 13:32, Loran wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-15 06:30, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 14:17:55 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Worst In The World': Here Are All The Rankings In Which Canada 
>>>>>>>>> Is Now Last
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most Unaffordable Housing, Highest Cell phone Bills And Worst 
>>>>>>>>> Rate of Acute Care Beds, To Name A Few
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But hey they're healthcare is "free"  I guess you really do get 
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> you pay for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You realize that across the world, the US is only 4 places better 
>>>>>>> than Canada, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And unlike Loser-1, I'll provide the source.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://data.oecd.org/healtheqt/hospital-beds.htm>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Illegals mooching off the hospital and health care system in America:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 30 million
>>>>>
>>>>> No proof.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://thehill.com/latino/407848-yale-mit-study-22-million-not-11-million-undocumented-immigrants-in-us/
>>>>
>>>> The undocumented population in the United States could be twice as 
>>>> large as the most commonly-used estimate, according to a research 
>>>> study published Friday in the scientific journal Plos One.
>>>
>>> "could be".
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The paper, led by Mohammad M. Fazel-Zarandi, a researcher at Yale 
>>>> and Massachusetts Institute of Technology, estimates there are 22.1 
>>>> million undocumented immigrants in the United States.
>>>>
>>>> Fazel-Zarandi’s study compared inflows and outflows of immigrants as 
>>>> well as demographic data. According to the report, the number of 
>>>> undocumented immigrants could be as low as 16.5 million, or as high 
>>>> as 29.1 million.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Illegals in Canaduh:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 20,000 - 200,000 depending on who's counting.
>>>>>
>>>>> No proof.
>>>>
>>>> Plenty of proof.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3084189/
>>>>
>>>> A guesstimate of about half a million has been proposed nationally 
>>>> [1, 2], but this number varies among other sources which suggest 
>>>> anywhere from 20,000 to 200,000 undocumented workers [3–5]. In 2003, 
>>>> Ontario’s Construction Secretariat purported that there were 76,000 
>>>> non-status immigrants in Ontario’s construction industry alone, 
>>>> while other sources confirmed that at least 36,000 failed refugee 
>>>> applicants had never been deported, and another 64,000 individuals 
>>>> overstayed their work, student or visitor visas in 2002 [5]. If it 
>>>> is assumed that workers are accompanied by family, the numbers in 
>>>> Ontario would rise to the highest figure previously estimated for 
>>>> all of Canada. With respect to settlement, Vancouver, Montreal, and 
>>>> Toronto have the highest number of undocumented migrants [6], with 
>>>> nearly 50% residing in Toronto alone [7].
>>>
>>> So a bunch of estimates and you don't know which are correct.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>> Factual citations/proofs/refutations posted by you = still sitting at 
>> ZERO.
>>
>> Toodles!
> 
> Running away is completely our brand.

Historically and individually, true.

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