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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Why Can't Pansy-Ass Pussy Liberals Stop Lying
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2024 18:52:24 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Sun, 16 Jun 2024 16:30:18 -0700,  Alan says...  

> Your fellow loser, Loser-1, has admitted that Trump has been "found 
> guilty" (his words) of 34 felonies.

Lie.

I did say the jury "found him guilty", but that neither means he IS guilty OR 
is the topic, OR makes him a convicted felon, which IS the topic, so fuck off 
with your lies.

Oh... and I never said "34 felonies", ever.

THIS is the ONLY time I typed out "34 felonies", and it was a JOKE I was 
quoting from an impression a comedian was doing.

This is so fucking hilarious that even YOU, liberal, one without a fucking 
humorous bone in your body, will find funny.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=liberals+have+no+sense+of+humor&ia=web

Quoting:
"Trump found guilty of 34 felonies, right? Don't worry, he'll twist it, man. 
He'll make it cool, it's fine."

AS Trump: "34 counts, nobody's done it, nobody can do that. Nobody can do it. 
34, it's never been done. Our numbers are so big, these are big numbers. 34. El 
Chapo couldn't do it, he couldn't do it. 22 times, what a failure. Guilty at 22 
counts, I said, what an amateur. 34, no, we're doing good. Al Capone couldn't 
do it. 27 counts, which is really beginner stuff. That's beginner stuff, he 
couldn't do it. We are going to jail, and we are going to jail so quick and so 
strong, and nobody's gone this quick. Two days, we'll be there in two days."

https://youtu.be/oPi2uAUw6Ws

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And the "found guilty"? That's still not the topic, NOR does it make him a 
"convicted felon".

So... Trump... still not a "convicted felon".

Judge hasn't entered his judgment of guilt.

I'll tell you something that you might not know. You've probably been reading 
in the press, if you've been reading about this case, that Trump is already a 
convicted felon. The jury has convicted him. "He's a convicted felon."

Well, guess what? That's not true. You're not a convicted felon because of a 
jury verdict. You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt 
against you.

YOU'RE NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT. YOU'RE NOT CONVICTED 
UNLESS THE JUDGE ENTERS A JUDGMENT OF GUILT AGAINST YOU.

The judge still has the power as I told you before to throw out that verdict 
and enter a judgment of acquittal. You are not convicted until the judge enters 
that judgment of guilt.

YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED UNTIL THE JUDGE ENTERS THAT JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

Now, in New York, it's very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment 
of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issued sentencing. That'd be 
July 11th. So what would this federal case be about in this federal action? 
Trump would sue attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the 
federal judge for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge 
Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt.

https://i.imgur.com/zudNp5Q.mp4

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There Are Several Theories For Why Alan Can't Stop Lying

Alan's An Undeserved Narcissist

Narcissists are often pathological liars, because they simply don't care about 
the truth.

They prefer to tell lies and gain control over people than be honest.

Sometimes, compulsive liars are highly impulsive people who struggle to take 
the time to think things through and tell the truth.

Lying doesn't necessarily make you a bad person, but it could be a sign of 
something more sinister.

By the age of three or four, we all start to lie. At this point in our brain's 
development, we learn that we have an incredibly versatile and powerful tool at 
our disposal - our language - and we can use it to actually play with reality 
and affect the outcome of what's happening.

Sooner or later we learn that lying is "bad," and we shouldn't really do it. 
But if Jim Carey's "Liar Liar" taught us anything, it's that this just isn't 
feasible. We all have to lie sometimes.

But some people are pathological liars, meaning they can't stop spreading 
misinformation about themselves and others. The psychological reasons for why 
some people are this way is a bit of a mystery, but in the third edition of the 
Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, pathological lying is a 
disorder in its own right, as well as a symptom of personality disorders like 
psychopathy and narcissism.

"I think it comes from a defect in the neurological wiring in terms of what 
causes us to have compassion and empathy," psychiatrist Judith Orloff, author 
of "The Empath's Survival Guide," told Business Insider. "Because narcissists, 
sociopaths, and psychopaths have what's called empathy deficient disorder, 
meaning they don't feel empathy in the way we would."

The Truth Doesn't Matter to Narcissists

When you don't care about other people, lies don't seem to matter. A lack of 
empathy essentially means a lack of conscience, which is a hard concept to 
grasp for a lot of people.

"When they lie it doesn't hurt them in the same way it would hurt us," Orloff 
said. "So many people get into relationships with pathological liars, or just 
can't understand why they're lying, because they're trying to fit these people 
into the ordinary standards of what it means to be empathetic."

But they don't fit. In fact, they may not even realize they are lying half the 
time, because they're not conscious of it. Orloff said they actually believe 
they are telling the truth a lot of the time. It's not so much about the fact 
itself, she said, as it is about wanting to have power over somebody.

This is extremely dangerous for highly sensitive people, because they attract 
narcissists. Then when they see someone is lying, they try and figure it out, 
or blame themselves. Once the lies start, it can end with the victim being 
gaslighted, which is essentially when they are told over and over again that 
their version of reality is incorrect, and they begin to believe the warped 
truth of the abuser.

"The great power of relationships is when you can tell the truth to one 
another, and trust each other, and be authentic - and with pathological liars 
you can't trust them," Orloff said. "You can't base your life around them. It's 
like a moral deficit, and there's no accountability. Someone who is a 
pathological liar will not say I'm sorry for doing it. They will say it's your 
fault."

The only way to escape the clutches of a pathological liar is to be strong 
enough to say "no this is not my fault, this is not ringing true to me, so I 
can't really trust you," she said.

Unfortunately, people tend to doubt themselves, because the lies can escalate 
subtly. It may start with a small white lie, and a few months later the 
victim's life with be a mess of confusion because of the web of tall tales that 
has been woven.

"If somebody lies, don't try and make an excuse about it," Orloff said. "A lie 
is a lie. And if you bring it up to the person and they say it's your fault, or 
no it didn't happen, just know there's something very wrong going on."

Psychologist Linda Blair, an author of many psychology books, told Business 
Insider some compulsive liars are simply too impulsive to tell the truth. The 
impulsive-reflective scale is ingrained in our genes, and it's very hard for 
someone highly impulsive to take the time to think things through, just as it 
is a challenge for a reflective person to jump into something head first.

"If you're an impulsive person, it's really hard to break the habit, because 
you have this terrible feeling inside you that you have to sort things out 
right now," Blair said. "So when it comes to your head, you just say it. That 
doesn't mean you necessarily lie, but it's a little harder for you to stop from 
lying, more than it is for someone who's more reflective."

Pathological lying and narcissism aren't synonymous, they just sometimes go 
hand in hand. In other cases, compulsive liars just might not have the capacity 
to stop themselves blurting things out. And Blair said they just need to learn 
to control their urges and compulsions. Their lies don't necessarily come from 
a bad place.

"I don't think it's something they know how to deal with," she said. "We think 
probably it has something to do with actual brain function and the way some 
people's brains work, which makes it much harder for them to understand the 
effect it will have on other people...  We think, but we just don't know yet 
for sure."