From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: THIS Is THE Epitome of Liberal Hypocrisy
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 22:26:05 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-06-17 22:22, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 16:33:43 -0700, Alan says...
>
>>
>> On 2024-06-17 14:24, Loran wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-17 07:24, Loran wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-16 15:46, CaLaVeRa wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/16/2024 2:48 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you also agree that "convicted" means "found guilty"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, but no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As many times as you return to your pile of dog barf:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
>>>>
>>>> Tell that to the New Jersey
>>>>
>>>
>>> "the "convicted felon" title is still pending...
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> "convicted" means "found guilty"
>>
>> "felon" means "one convicted of felonies".
>
> Again, dumb ass... definitions don't matter. It only matters when someone is
> OFFICIALLY declared guilty.
Which happens when the jury verdict is read.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/zudNp5Q.mp4
>
> I'll tell you something that you might not know. You've probably been reading
> in the press, if you've been reading about this case, that Trump is already a
> convicted felon. The jury has convicted him. "He's a convicted felon."
>
> Well, guess what? That's not true. You're not a convicted felon because of a
> jury verdict. You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
> against you.
>
> YOU'RE NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT. YOU'RE NOT CONVICTED
> UNLESS THE JUDGE ENTERS A JUDGMENT OF GUILT AGAINST YOU.
>
> The judge still has the power as I told you before to throw out that verdict
> and enter a judgment of acquittal. You are not convicted until the judge enters
> that judgment of guilt.
Except the defence made that motion and the judge already denied it.
>
> YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED UNTIL THE JUDGE ENTERS THAT JUDGMENT OF GUILT.
>
> Now, in New York, it's very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment
> of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issued sentencing. That'd be
> July 11th. So what would this federal case be about in this federal action?
> Trump would sue attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the
> federal judge for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge
> Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt.
Show one legal reference to this "judgment of guilt".
>
> THAT, coming from a Constitution Law Professor at Yale, trumps your OPINION and
> DICTIONARY (not law book) definitions.
>
> Jed Rubenfeld - Professor of Law - Education
> J.D., Harvard Law School, 1986
> A.B., Princeton University, 1980
And why is he the ONLY 'Constitution [sic; you meant "ConstitutionAL"
Law Professor' you can cite, Loser-1?