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On 2024-06-23 16:39, AlleyCat wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:14:23 -0700,  Alan says...
> 
>> 'However, the likeliness to buy electric vehicles has grown over the
>> past three years.
> 
> Yes, and THOSE who are "likely"... do they ever?

And of those who say they are "likely" to return to an IC vehicle...

...do they ever?

See? Same thing right back at you.

> 
> And if they do... will fall into the category of those who had regrets?
> 
> Probably.

And you claim to be able to read minds and predict the future.

> 
> Maybe there IS a growing likeliness... but it's still an insignificant number.

And you know this from...

> 
> I've never said EVs were a bad idea... they just can't take the place of ALL
> ICE cars and THE problem I have with them, is that the GOVERNMENT and
> politicians decided THEY were the ones who were going to get into the EV
> business and use taxpayer monies to do it.

I never said IC cars are a bad idea.



> 
> THAT is NOT how a capitalist country is run. THAT is socialism. Reminder:
> 
> any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements
> advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means
> of production and distribution of goods
> 
> The government is trying to OWN EV production and control by doing out TAXPAYER
> money to PRIVATE firms and passing laws that will NOT benefit the end users of
> said EVs... ONLY the producers and INVESTORS.

There is no indication whatsoever that "the government is trying to OWN 
EV production"

> 
> Ask ANY politician who's advocating the forcing of EVs on us and passing laws
> forcing us to comply, how much THEY'VE invested in EVs and "green energy".
> 
> You DO realize, that making an EV is NOT "green" at all, right? The trade off
> of "cleaner" air and a dirtier Earth is not worth the minuscule removal of CO2.
> 
> To manufacture each EV battery, you must process:
> 
> 25,000 pounds of brine for the lithium
> 30,000 pounds of ore for the cobalt
> 5,000 pounds of ore for the nickel, 25,000 pounds of ore for copper
> Digging up 500,000 pounds of the earth's crust
> 
> For		just		one		battery.

1. Where do you get those figures?

2. Are those numbers actually scary?

> 
> Cobalt, copper, lithium, and other minerals required to drive the EV agenda
> often come from child exploitation and slave labor overseas. I joined
> @RepDuarteCA13's bill to ensure that government EV subsidies do not support
> these inhumane mines.

Good. But that is a complete red herring when it comes to whether or not 
EVs are a good idea.

> 
> https://i.imgur.com/SbKPhQh.mp4
> 
>> 'However, the likeliness to buy electric vehicles has grown over the
>> past three years.
> 
>  From what to what? It started at small percentage and is STILL a VERY small
> percentage, otherwise there'd be a WHOLE lot more on the road.
> 

It was in the text you snipped.

> Biden Spends $7.5 Billion For 7 EV Charging Stations
> 
> https://www.americanenergyalliance.org/2024/06/biden-spends-7-5-billion-for-7-
> ev-charging-stations/
> 
> 2 days ago - Biden's $7.5 billion EV charging stations program, which promised
> half a million installations, still has over 499,990 to go after three years.
> President Biden signed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law in November 2021,
> allocating $7.5 billion for electric vehicle charging, of which $5

How much of that money has actually been spent to date?

> 
> =====
> 
> Nearly half of American electric vehicle (EV) owners want to buy an internal
> combustion engine model the next time they buy a car, according to a new study
> from McKinsey and Company, a leading consulting firm. [emphasis, links added]

False. Not "want to": "likely" to.

And their position is based (mostly) on difficulties with charging, 
which are going away.

<https://executivedigest.sapo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Mobility-Consumer-Pulse-2024_Overview.pdf>

> 
> Approximately 46% of Americans who own an EV want to go back to a standard
> vehicle for their next purchase, citing issues like inadequate charging
> infrastructure and affordability, according to McKinsey's study, which was
> obtained and reviewed by the Daily Caller News Foundation.

Still false. 46% said they are "likely" to go back.

> 
> 
> The study's findings further suggest that the Biden administration's EV push is
> struggling to land with American consumers after 46% of respondents indicated
> that they are unlikely or very unlikely to purchase an EV in a June poll
> conducted by The Associated Press and the University of Chicago's Energy Policy
> Institute.

And from that same poll:

'About 4 in 10 U.S. adults say they would be at least somewhat likely to 
buy an EV the next time they buy a car'

> 
> Moreover, 58% of Americans are very likely to keep their current cars for
> longer, and 44% are likely to postpone a possible switch to EVs, McKinsey's
> study found.

So?

> 
> Consumers' concerns about EV charging infrastructure are notable given the slow
> rollout of the Biden administration's $7.5 billion public EV charger program,
> which has so far led to the construction of only a handful of chargers in
> nearly three years.

So as it rolls out, their concerns will be allayed.

Got it.