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On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:48:09 -0700,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2024-06-26 20:06, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 19:47:32 -0700,  Alan says...
> > 
> >> Is that New York State law, loser?
> > 
> > Doesn't matter... there's NO New York State Law proving otherwise, so you can't
> > ask for one, roundmouth.
> > 
> > Jeezus, you're stupid.
> > 
> > Give us a New York State Law that LEGALLY/OFFICIALLY designates Trump a
> > "convicted felon", and The Atlantic article doesn't count as law.
> 
> Already done.
 
> NYS law

what law?

> requires a person to do have a pre-sentence interview AFTER 
> conviction...

So?

And THAT doesn't have anything to do with the legal and/or official "naming" of 
ANYONE a "convicted felon".

No law cited... fail.

Game, set, match, lying little pussy.
 
> ...and Trump has had that interview.

So?

And?

Still no law or ANYTHING that legally and /or officially designates Trump a 
"convicted felon".
 
Game, set, match, lying little pussy.

Nope.

You are not considered a convicted felon, until judgment of guilt is rendered 
and entered into record, no need to mention sentencing.

§ 7.15 1. Formal Judgment in Criminal Case
 
A formal JUDGMENT OF GUILT, i.e., a judgment of conviction and sentence in a 
criminal case, constitutes a conviction. A "judgment" means "A court's FINAL 
determination of the rights and obligations of the parties in a case."[23]

A "judgment of conviction" means (in order) - (1)"the written record of a 
criminal judgment, (consisting of the plea), (2)the verdict or findings, (3)the 
ADJUDICATION, and the (4)sentence."[24]

THUS, A FORMAL JUDGMENT DOES NOT EXIST UNLESS SENTENCE HAS BEEN FORMALLY 
IMPOSED.

[23] Black's Law Dictionary 846 (7th ed. 1999). 

[24] Id. at 847, citing F.R.Crim.P. 32(d)(1).

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https://i.imgur.com/zudNp5Q.mp4

Do you need the whole transcript so you can understand his words? OK. Take 
about a minute.

I'll tell you something that you might not know. You've probably been reading 
in the press, if you've been reading about this case, that Trump is already a 
convicted felon. The jury has convicted him. "He's a convicted felon."

Well, guess what? That's not true. You're not a convicted felon because of a 
jury verdict. You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt 
against you.

YOU'RE NOT A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE OF A JURY VERDICT. YOU'RE NOT CONVICTED 
UNLESS THE JUDGE ENTERS A JUDGMENT OF GUILT AGAINST YOU.

The judge still has the power as I told you before to throw out that verdict 
and enter a judgment of acquittal. You are not convicted until the judge enters 
that judgment of guilt.

YOU ARE NOT CONVICTED UNTIL THE JUDGE ENTERS THAT JUDGMENT OF GUILT.

Now, in New York, it's very likely that Judge Merchan will enter that judgment 
of guilt against Trump on the same day that he issued sentencing. That'd be 
July 11th. So what would this federal case be about in this federal action? 
Trump would sue attorney Bragg and other state actors and ask the judge, the 
federal judge for an emergency temporary restraining order halting Judge 
Merchan from entering that judgment of guilt.

THAT, coming from a Constitution Law Professor at Yale, trumps your OPINION.

Jed Rubenfeld - Professor of Law - Education
J.D., Harvard Law School, 1986
A.B., Princeton University, 1980

Courses Taught:

Advanced Constitutional Law
Criminal Procedure: Investigation

Jed Rubenfeld is a Professor of Law at Yale Law School. His subjects are 
constitutional law, privacy, First Amendment, and criminal law. His recent 
books include Freedom and Time and Revolution by Judiciary: The Structure of 
American Constitutional Law. Professor Rubenfeld received his A.B. from 
Princeton and his J.D. from Harvard.

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7 Reasons Narcissists Rarely Grow Emotionally

Narcissists Are Notorious For Not Changing. Here's Why They Get Stuck

Key points

Narcissistic behavior often begins in childhood as a form of self-defense 
against feeling unloved.

The resulting self-protective patterns can block narcissists from personal 
growth.

Narcissistic personalities can change, but they have to be open to self-
reflection and criticism and not get stuck in comforting delusions.

One of the most frustrating things about narcissistic personalities is their 
resistance to growth. Throughout life, we all?including narcissists?have the 
capacity to develop ourselves. So why do they rarely evolve?

Narcissistic behavior begins as self-protection from the shame and low self-
esteem that result from insecure attachment with parents. Children who are 
developing a narcissistic personality will adopt defensive behavior patterns to 
shield themselves from negative feedback, both from others and from their own 
thoughts and feelings.

7 Reasons Narcissists Rarely Grow Emotionally

Keeping their negative self-concept out of consciousness (repressed) and 
compensating with self-aggrandizing superiority is meant as a failsafe from 
pain, but it's a deal with the devil that also blocks them from personal 
growth.


1. They avoid self-reflection.

A hallmark of emotional maturity is the habit of self-reflection. We check in 
with ourselves about how we're feeling, how others are responding to us, and 
what we're doing that is successful and not successful. Self-reflection is an 
act of self-agency that enables us to learn from our experiences and better 
adapt to our circumstances.

Narcissists' refusal to self-reflect allows them to repress their shame and 
avoid looking at how their grandiosity affects others, but it also prevents 
them from developing self-awareness and learning from their mistakes. This is 
why they tend to have a simplistic view of their childhoods, lack insight into 
their relationships, and become enraged when confronted with their own 
behavior. Narcissists are strangers to themselves, and they want to keep it 
that way.


2. They distort reality.

Along with avoiding introspection, narcissistic people hold facts at a distance 
and substitute lies and distortions that conform to their inflated self-
beliefs. From denying inconvenient truths to having delusions of superiority 
and entitlement, to rationalizing neglect and abuse, to gaslighting those 
around them, narcissists continuously attempt to elude reality, making 
objectivity, fairness, and accountability impossible. Clinging to magical 
thinking, they fail to engage with the truths that enable us to know ourselves 
and others.


3. They project negatives.

Another self-protective mechanism of narcissistic people is projecting their 
own negative thoughts, feelings, and actions onto others. Like avoiding 
introspection and denying reality, externalizing what they wish to disown in 
themselves onto people around them allows them to dump uncomfortable emotions, 
such as aggression and jealousy, while giving them free rein to sidestep 
consequences, repudiate responsibility, and shift blame. Narcissists' 
compulsion to project makes them reckless, cruel, and impervious to the 
learning that only comes from honest self-assessment and accountability.


4. They see themselves as special or perfect.

Absurd as it sounds, narcissists have a grandiose special or perfect delusion 
meant to insulate them from any possibility of flaw or fault. By telling 
themselves they are never wrong, deserve special treatment, and should be 
exempt from rules and consequences, they rationalize never having to question 
themselves or answer to others. Even covert narcissists, who may not appear 
grandiose, harbor these underlying beliefs. As they see it, change is something 
others need to do, never themselves.


5. They have a victim narrative.

Like the special or perfect defense, feeling victimized is a common mindset of 
narcissistic people, particularly more passive-aggressive types. Adopting the 
stance that they are always the wronged party when they don't get what they 
want is a loophole that allows them to avoid accountability and blame others. 
Playing the victim violin is also a strategy to get attention, sympathy, and 
caretaking from others. The problem with framing experience as constantly 
unjust is the lack of agency inherent in seeing themselves as perpetual victims 
helpless to change their circumstances.


6. They don't empathize.

Narcissists' lack of empathy is perhaps their greatest deficit and obstacle to 
growth. Not connecting emotionally with the experience or feeling states of 
others stems from their inner alienation and lack of compassion for the 
vulnerable child self. Standing at a distance from their own humanity is meant 
to buffer them from vulnerability, but it keeps them fear-driven, rigid, and 
isolated.


7. Others shield them from consequences.

Narcissistic people are emotionally dysregulated, ruthlessly self-serving, and 
profoundly traumatizing to others, particularly their family members. Many have 
been shielded from consequences in childhood (while also being emotionally 
deprived). As adults, they seek out partners who similarly accept and enable 
their delusions and abusive behavior, and they often align with narcissistic 
professions and institutions that reinforce their entitlement.
The narcissistic trap

Like the rest of us, people who are narcissistic can change and evolve. But as 
long as they shun self-reflection, distort reality, project negatives, self-
aggrandize, play the victim, and disconnect emotionally while never being held 
to account by the people around them, they will not get the traction they need 
to develop moral responsibility and healthier ways of coping. What begins as a 
childhood defense against feelings of unlovability becomes a self-fulfilling 
trap that makes it impossible to experience trust and loving connection with 
the self or others.