From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger Station Is An Impressive Beast
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:07:15 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:04:56 -0700, Alan says...
> The claim that the Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger Station uses diesel
> to provide the electricity is bullshit.
No one said "uses". Also, no one used ANY form of time tense; past present OR
future. Chips Loral showed you EXACTLY what "happened", so go cry in your
pillow... again.
See? You can't discuss anything without changing the "conditions" OF the
discussion.
I KNOW you looked it up, but did you RESEARCH this? You'd find out that there's
more to the story.
I will NOT help you out, since *I* did my own research before posting. I found
out some interesting facts about the story, but posted it anyways.
I'm NOT going to admit, claim or any of bullshit accusation you want to say I'm
doing, because the story IS true. Some of the wording is archaic, but still
true.
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The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast.
With 98 charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest
charging station in the world.
And it's all powered by diesel.
Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators
LOL
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Largest EV Charging Station In World Powered By Diesel-Powered Generators
It's lonely at the top:
https://cowboystatedaily.imgix.net/tesla-superstation-10-1-23.jpg?ixlib=js-
3.8.0&q=75&auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=clip&w=2048
The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98
charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging
station in the world. But to provide that kind of power takes something solar
can't provide - diesel generators.
September 30, 20234 min read
Aerial photo of supercharger Tesla station at the Harris Ranch in California.
Aerial photo of supercharger Tesla station at the Harris Ranch in California.
(Shutterstock)
The Harris Ranch Tesla Supercharger station is an impressive beast. With 98
charging bays, the facility in Coalinga, California, is the largest charging
station in the world.
In 2017, Tesla CEO said that all Superchargers in the automaker's network were
being converted to solar.
"Over time, almost all will disconnect from the electricity grid," Musk posted
on X, formally known as Twitter.
Superchargers charge vehicles up to the 80% sweet spot in as little as 20
minutes, but to provide that kind of power for nearly 100 bays takes something
solar can't provide - diesel generators.
Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the station was
powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell station. Reporters at SF
Gate tried to find out how much of the station's electricity was from the
generators, but couldn't get a response from Tesla.
The station isn't connected to any dedicated solar farms, which means that
absent the diesel generators, the station is powered by California's grid.
According to the U.S. Energy and Information Administration, in June 2023,
natural gas supplied nearly 5,000 megawatt hours of electricity in California,
whereas non-hydroelectric renewables supplied about 7,250 megawatt hours.
Another Case
Energy analyst and writer David Blackmon, author of the "Energy Transition
Absurdities," told Cowboy State Daily that the use of diesel-powered generators
is not limited to the Harris Ranch station.
He used to shop at a Whole Foods in Houston. The company had installed a
charging station in front of the store for its customers.
"It was the best parking spot in the lot, and it crowded out a bunch of
handicap spaces," Blackmon said.
He said there were diesel generators behind the store and whenever someone was
using the chargers, the generators would kick on.
Destabilized Grid
Just as these charging stations find they can't run without some fossil fuel
backup, the retirement of a coal-fired power plant in Kansas is being delayed
to accommodate the energy demands of an electric vehicle battery factory that's
under construction.
Blackmon said that these stories illustrate well the lack of thought going into
the demands that will be placed on the grid with increasing amounts of electric
vehicle adoption.
As those demands pile on, U.S. energy policy pushes to remove coal, nuclear and
natural gas from the grid.
Blackmon said he watched all summer as the Texas grid, which operates
separately from the rest of the county, nearly collapsed with the incessant
heat.
"We almost had blackouts on Aug. 24," he said.
State Sen. Cheri Steinmetz, R-Lingle, told Cowboy State Daily that despite
claims that wind and solar alone can power the grid, they lack the reliability
needed to satisfy energy demand. So, parts of the country, such as Texas, are
facing shortages.
"Adding the load required for electric vehicles and the transportation network
to support them would exacerbate the looming shortages we already face in the
near future if energy policies are not reformed," Steinmetz said.
No Way Out
Blackmon said that the footprint required to generate enough power to satisfy
all energy needs with wind and solar is enormous. It's not just the wind farms,
solar farms and battery factories, there are also thousands of miles of
transmission lines to connect consumers with the power wherever it happens to
be generated at any given moment.
This calls into doubt Musk's plan to power charging stations off of solar.
"If that's what he wants, then he only wants the chargers to work six to eight
hours a day. If they're purely powered by solar, there's just no way out of
that," Blackmon said.
Musk has made many exciting promises that so far haven't come to pass. Someone
went to the trouble to make a website documenting his pledges and how many days
have passed since they were made.
Musk has also been taken to task for his solar promises. Energy expert Alex
Epstein ran a fact check on Musk's claim that we could power the world with a
small area of the Sahara Desert and "some batteries."
Epstein calculated that enough battery storage to create a reliable grid would
cost $590 trillion for the batteries alone. It doesn't include the cost of all
the transmission infrastructure. And the batteries would have to be replaced
every decade.
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