From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Kamela's campaign caught lying about a simple biography
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:16:44 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 11:34:36 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-08-19 04:09, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 16:01:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-08-18 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:55:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-08-17 06:17, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 14:12:54 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-08-16 09:44, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 10:11:56 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-08-14 04:24, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:10:40 -0600, Chips Loral
>>>>>>>>>> <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Walz is a "Command Sergeant Major, Retired".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Period.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In your own home, on your own front porch, watching the gestapo sweep
>>>>>>>>>>> the otherwise peaceful and empty neighborhood streets when:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1823207131769643490
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gov. Tim Walz had his police use paintball guns to shoot Minnesota
>>>>>>>>>>> residents if they broke curfew by being on their porches during CoViD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Get in the house!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Light 'em up!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That right there is as bad as Cruella Whitmer's fascism, and even a step
>>>>>>>>>>> farther to complete Orwelian destruction of rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ?? ? ??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fun to watch all the libs like "Alan" blatantly lie about reality.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What am I supposed to be lying about?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was Walz promoted to CSM? Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When he retired did he hold that rank? Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Harris campaign website identified him that way until Wednesday
>>>>>>>> afternoon. It now says that Walz served in the Army, "rising to the
>>>>>>>> rank of Command Sergeant Major."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's because although Walz did hold the title at one point, he
>>>>>>>> retired as a master sergeant, a lower rank. The Army reduced his rank
>>>>>>>> in May 2005, when Walz retired, because he never finished the required
>>>>>>>> coursework for the US Army Sergeants Major Academy, according to
>>>>>>>> Minnesota National Guard records.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To retire as a command sergeant major, Walz would also have had to
>>>>>>>> hold the title for three years."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who wrote that, and what were her qualifications for making that
>>>>>>> statement? It wasn't a quote.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it really matter? This is the official campaign position and
>>>>>> Waltz is not objecting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/tim-walz-military-career-what-we-know-fact-check-2024-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you hold the title "at one point", you're entitled to that rank when
>>>>>>> you retire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> '10 U.S. Code § 8336 - Highest grade held satisfactorily: Reserve
>>>>>>> enlisted members reduced in grade not as a result of the members
>>>>>>> misconduct'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/8336>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suggest you read it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He did not complete the mandatory courses for the rank, therefore he
>>>>>> doesn't hold that rank.
>>>>>
>>>>> Produce the regulation or law that supports that claim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that you disregard what is put in front of you and stamp
>>>> your feet for more.
>>>
>>> I quoted the salient portion of the law.
>>>
>>> When challenged to do your part, you punk.
>>
>> Ask the national guard. They seem more informed than you.
>
>You're the one making claims about what they said...
>
>...but failing to provide quotes.
Yawn.
The Minnesota National Guard is disputing Governor Tim Walz's military
biography, saying that the Democratic vice presidential candidate did
not hold the rank of command sergeant major at the time of his
retirement.
Army Lieutenant Colonel Kristen Augé, the state public affairs officer
for Minnesota National Guard, told Just the News on Wednesday that the
governor did not retire as "Command Sergeant Major Walz" in 2005, as
stated on Minnesota's official website, but as master sergeant
"because he did not complete additional coursework at the U.S. Army
Sergeants Major Academy." A soldier who does not complete the
requisite coursework is automatically demoted, according to Army
regulations.
https://www.newsweek.com/national-guard-disputes-tim-walzs-military-biography-1936038