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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2024 13:28:09 -0500
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On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 10:56:44 -0700, Michael A Terrell says... 

> > The topic was Trump's lying.
> > 
> > :-)
> 
> And Trump's overall *shit* character, which renders him wholly unfit for office.

You stupid coward. This was YOUR article and it wasn't about Trump lying. 

Subject: H.R. McMaster Thinks Donald Trump Is Shitty at Making Deals

From: Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 11:15:04 -0700

By Nicolas Niarchos

Nicolas Niarchos is a freelance journalist whose writing on international 
relations has appeared in The Nation and The New Yorker. He is at work on a book 
about the supply chain for battery metals.

Aug. 27, 2024

Recently on the campaign trail, Donald Trump has talked up his aggressive stance 
on China, positioning himself as a tough negotiator in a brutal trade war. But a 
new memoir by Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, one of Trump's national security advisers, 
throws that narrative, and many other stories that Trump tells about his time in 
office, into stark relief.

As McMaster writes in "At War With Ourselves," the president could sometimes be 
kept on the straight and narrow with a clever dose of reverse psychology (Xi 
Jinping wants you to say this, Xi Jinping wants you to say that). But just as 
often, McMaster shows Trump to have been an unpredictable waffler who undermined 
himself to the advantage of his competitors on the world stage.

In November 2017, President Trump visited China on the third leg of a 13-day 
trip around Asia. It was his "most consequential" destination, McMaster 
explains. As they flew to Beijing, he warned Trump that Xi would try to trick 
him into saying something that was good for China, but bad for the United States 
and its allies. "The C.C.P.'s favorite phrase, 'win-win,' he recalls telling 
his boss at one point, "actually meant that China won twice.

Trump seemed to hear him, but in the Great Hall of the People, the president 
strayed from his talking points. He agreed with Xi that military exercises in 
South Korea were "provocative" and a "waste of money" and suggested that China 
might have a legitimate claim to Japan's Senkaku Islands. McMaster, his stomach 
sinking, passed a note to Gen. John Kelly, the chief of staff: Xi "ate our 
lunch," it read.

"At War With Ourselves" is intended to be a companion to "Battlegrounds, 
McMaster's 2020 assessment of U.S. foreign policy backsliding since the Cold 
War", but it works well as a stand-alone and serves as essential reading for 
anyone countenancing a potential second round of Trump as a global leader. The 
general shows how, despite his best efforts to help the president, the supposed 
master of the "art of the deal" was treated like a "chump by a roster of the 
world's top authoritarians.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/27/books/review/at-war-with-ourselves-hr-mcmaster.html

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Why do narcissists LIE so much?

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Rudy, the Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar excessively lies to fabricate reality. Compulsive liars are those who lie over and over 
again. The dishonest behavior is second nature to them, and they may not even realize they're lying half the 
time (despite displaying the classic signs of a liar). While compulsively lying isn't classified as a 
disorder, it can be a sign of other mental health disorders, such as antisocial personality disorder.

Reasoning: Compulsive liars often make up stories and white lies because they fear criticism. For them, lying 
is a defense mechanism to protect them from reality.

How to Deal: Don't engage in a compulsive liar's lies. Instead, state simply, "That's not true," and walk 
away.
The terms "compulsive" and "habitual" are often used interchangeably.



Rudy, the Pathological Liar

A pathological liar is persistently dishonest for no reason. These liars tell small lies compulsively and 
habitually-it comes naturally to them. More often than not, their reality becomes tangled with their lies, 
mixing fact and fiction. Perhaps they exaggerate a story or don't tell the truth about what they had for 
breakfast. A pathological liar can have such a strong belief in their lies that they believe them to be true.

Reasoning: Pathological liars tend to have low self-esteem and will often lie to boost their ego, seek 
sympathy, or cure boredom.

How to Deal: Stop engaging in the conversation if you notice that they're lying. Pathological liars want you 
to believe what they believe, and if you don't indulge in the lie, they'll likely move on.

Like compulsive liars, pathological lying may be a sign of a personality or mental-health disorder; however, 
it's more difficult to spot a pathological liar.



Rudy, the Sociopathic Liar

A sociopathic liar lies on a routine basis to cause chaos. Their lying doesn't start or end on occasion; it's 
constant. Unlike other types of liars, a sociopath lies simply because they want to. There's no rhyme or 
reason to it, and they rarely feel remorse for their actions.

Reasoning: Sociopathic liars lie to gratify their own needs. They want what they want and won't hesitate to 
burn a few bridges to get it.

How to Deal: Be honest with a sociopathic liar to derail their schemes. Call out their blatant lie with facts 
you know to be true with something like, "Really? See, I heard something different."

Sociopathic and psychopathic lying are generally the same thing, with the only difference being the 
personality disorder associated with their dishonesty.



Rudy, the Narcissistic Liar

A narcissistic liar seeks attention but denies responsibility. These types of liars use gaslighting to fuel 
their lies. They may appear to be a "people person," but their social connections often stem from 
exaggerations and lies. A narcissist's lies may seem childish, as their lies are a people-pleasing game.

Reasoning: Narcissistic liars twist the truth to hide themselves. Deep down, they're insecure and will do 
whatever it takes not to be vulnerable.

How to Deal: Don't engage in a narcissistic liar's drama. Instead, take what they say with a grain of salt 
and analyze the facts. If what they say contradicts what you know, it's probably a lie.
Narcissistic liars are a type of compulsive liar; however, they appear to be a hero or victim when 
fabricating their reality.



Rudy, the Intentional Liar

An intentional liar lies for enjoyment. These types of liars love the drama lying creates. They think lying 
is fun-an entertaining game they can play whenever they like. More often than not, their white lies, fibs, 
and exaggerations are mean-spirited and intended to stir the pot or push someone's buttons.
Reasoning: Intentional liars are deceptive for attention. They're likely insecure and lie to boost their ego 
and appear powerful.

How to Deal: Avoid engaging in lies and gossip with an intentional liar. The more you react to their lies, 
the more lies they'll create.

Unlike pathological liars, intentional liars are fully aware of the dishonest web they weave.



Rudy, the Careless Liar

A careless liar doesn't care about the implications of lying. This type of liar is often sloppy or careless 
when it comes to bending the truth. They likely won't try to hide it or put much thought into forming the 
"perfect lie." Instead, they'll spew whatever comes to mind, often leading to further lies or conversational 
hiccups.

Reasoning: Careless liars typically lie on the spot to cover up a mistake, fear, or insecurity. The lie 
hastily comes out to protect themselves from facing the truth.

How to Deal: Call a careless liar out on their lie to halt them in their tracks. They know they're lying, and 
confronting them and genuinely asking how they're doing may help them admit it.
A careless liar's lies are usually easy to spot because they don't formulate a clever story or tale 
beforehand.



Rudy, the Impressive Liar

An impressive liar aims to be the best. This type of liar wants to be the most impressive of the group. 
They'll exaggerate stories and tell white lies to look like the hero. For instance, the classic "I caught a 
fish this big" tale is often told by an impressive liar.

Reasoning: Impressive liars want to feel self-assured and liked by others and often lie to hide insecurities 
or embarrassment.

How to Deal: Let an impressive liar's lie roll off you. If something sounds too good to be true, say, "Yeah, 
sure," and walk away or change the topic.

An impressive liar doesn't lie to be malicious or mean-spirited. They lie to fabricate the truth to match 
their wild version of reality.



Rudy, the Encouraging Liar

An Encouraging liar lies to welcome conflict. Encouraging liars lie to scheme, manipulate, or intentionally 
harm; they lie to keep the argument going. Conflict is their best case scenario, and these liars often dance 
around the truth to court confrontation.

Reasoning: Encouraging liars are likely dishonest to further confrontation.

How to Deal: Don't let an Encouraging liar drag you away from an important conversation.

Encouraging liars usually lie every day; however, the more they lie, the easier it'll become and the more 
often they'll do it.