From: Intelligent Party <Intelligent@savetheworldmsn.com>
Newsgroups: alt.survival,misc.survivalism,uk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy,can.politics,aus.politics
Subject: Desalinization vs. Reservoirs
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 03:04:56 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 8/22/2024 11:58 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
> On 8/22/2024 11:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>> Raise Lake Shasta 200 Feet and thereby add 10 million acre feet of water.
>>
>> Put in the Ah Pah Dam and thereby add 15 million acre feet of water. On
>> the Klamath River and form a scenic lake.
>>
>> Put in the Dos Rios Reservoir and thereby add 7 million acre feet of
>> water. On the Eel River
>>
>> Do these projects and then there will be enough water for the Peripheral
>> Canal, and a fledgling UC Fresno.
>>
>>
>> These would be Federal Water Programs, and there is runoff for the
>> State. These are huge projects like the Hoover Dam, yet desperately
>> needed if we are to have an Empire of 40 million people in California as
>> we have.
>>
>> The farmers are 80% of the water, and are Federal water.
>> The homes are 20% of the water, and are State water.
>> There is runoff from Federal to State.
>>
>>
>> For comparison purposes, Lake Mead and Lake Powell, the nation's two
>> largest reservoirs are 25 million Acre Feet of water each.
>
>
> Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk
The Hoover Dam cost $49 million to build in 1930, equal to $860 million
today. Per Quora, we think it would cost much more today, closer to $10
billion.
https://www.quora.com/How-much-would-it-cost-to-build-the-Hoover-Dam-from-scratch-in-todays-dollars-and-under-todays-construction-rules
If it cost $10 Billion
The San Diego County Carlsbad Desalinization plant cost about $1 billion
to build
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_%22Bud%22_Lewis_Carlsbad_Desalination_Plant
It produces 50 million gallons of fresh water per day or 18.25 billion
per year.
If a dam allowing storage of 10 million acre feet, such as the Hoover
Dam cost $10 billion to build, we calculate that 1 acre foot of water is
325,851 gallons, and 10 million acre feet of water 3,258,509,400,000,
3.2 Trillion gallons of stored water.
We also calculate that 10 such desalinization plants as the one in San
Diego County, costing $10 billion total, would produce 18.25 billion x
10, 182.5 billion gallons of fresh water per year. Or 500,000,000
gallons x 365 days, also 182,500,000,000 gallons yearly.
We thus conclude, that because 3.2 trillion gallons is 17.85 times 182.5
billion gallons, dams still make more sense that desalinization plants.
If you were storing only 1 million acre feet, it would still be 1.785
time more water to have damns.
Maybe we can build desalinization plants more efficiently in the future?
Maybe there are economies of scale?
If you stored 10 million acre feet, and the dam only cost $1 billion it
would be 178.5 times more water. However, we should not build damns
that fail, and it should be a Federal project.
If there is anything wrong with this analysis, please correct it.