From: Frank <"frank "@frank.net>
Newsgroups: alt.survival,misc.survivalism,uk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy,can.politics,aus.politics
Subject: Re: Desalinization vs. Reservoirs
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 10:17:33 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 8/30/2024 6:04 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
> On 8/22/2024 11:58 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>> On 8/22/2024 11:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>>> Raise Lake Shasta 200 Feet and thereby add 10 million acre feet of
>>> water.
>>>
>>> Put in the Ah Pah Dam and thereby add 15 million acre feet of water. On
>>> the Klamath River and form a scenic lake.
>>>
>>> Put in the Dos Rios Reservoir and thereby add 7 million acre feet of
>>> water. On the Eel River
>>>
>>> Do these projects and then there will be enough water for the Peripheral
>>> Canal, and a fledgling UC Fresno.
>>>
>>>
>>> These would be Federal Water Programs, and there is runoff for the
>>> State. These are huge projects like the Hoover Dam, yet desperately
>>> needed if we are to have an Empire of 40 million people in California as
>>> we have.
>>>
>>> The farmers are 80% of the water, and are Federal water.
>>> The homes are 20% of the water, and are State water.
>>> There is runoff from Federal to State.
>>>
>>>
>>> For comparison purposes, Lake Mead and Lake Powell, the nation's two
>>> largest reservoirs are 25 million Acre Feet of water each.
>>
>>
>> Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk
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> The Hoover Dam cost $49 million to build in 1930, equal to $860 million
> today. Per Quora, we think it would cost much more today, closer to $10
> billion.
> https://www.quora.com/How-much-would-it-cost-to-build-the-Hoover-Dam-from-scratch-in-todays-dollars-and-under-todays-construction-rules
>
> If it cost $10 Billion
>
> The San Diego County Carlsbad Desalinization plant cost about $1 billion
> to build
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_%22Bud%22_Lewis_Carlsbad_Desalination_Plant
>
> It produces 50 million gallons of fresh water per day or 18.25 billion
> per year.
>
> If a dam allowing storage of 10 million acre feet, such as the Hoover
> Dam cost $10 billion to build, we calculate that 1 acre foot of water is
> 325,851 gallons, and 10 million acre feet of water 3,258,509,400,000,
> 3.2 Trillion gallons of stored water.
>
> We also calculate that 10 such desalinization plants as the one in San
> Diego County, costing $10 billion total, would produce 18.25 billion x
> 10, 182.5 billion gallons of fresh water per year. Or 500,000,000
> gallons x 365 days, also 182,500,000,000 gallons yearly.
>
> We thus conclude, that because 3.2 trillion gallons is 17.85 times 182.5
> billion gallons, dams still make more sense that desalinization plants.
>
>
> If you were storing only 1 million acre feet, it would still be 1.785
> time more water to have damns.
>
> Maybe we can build desalinization plants more efficiently in the future?
> Â Maybe there are economies of scale?
>
> If you stored 10 million acre feet, and the dam only cost $1 billion it
> would be 178.5 times more water. However, we should not build damns
> that fail, and it should be a Federal project.
>
>
> If there is anything wrong with this analysis, please correct it.
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Might add that dam generates electricity where desalinization requires
electricity to run.