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From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.survival,misc.survivalism,uk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy,can.politics,aus.politics
Subject: Re: Desalinization vs. Reservoirs
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 19:59:55 +1000

On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 16:29:53 +1000, Trevor Wilson  
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 31/08/2024 11:37 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 10:17:30 +1000, Trevor Wilson  
>> <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/08/2024 8:04 pm, Intelligent Party wrote:
>>>> On 8/22/2024 11:58 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>>>>> On 8/22/2024 11:45 AM, Intelligent Party wrote:
>>>>>> Raise Lake Shasta 200 Feet and thereby add 10 million acre feet of  
>>>>>> water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Put in the Ah Pah Dam and thereby add 15 million acre feet of  
>>>>>> water.  On
>>>>>> the Klamath River and form a scenic lake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Put in the Dos Rios Reservoir and thereby add 7 million acre feet of
>>>>>> water.  On the Eel River
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do these projects and then there will be enough water for the  
>>>>>> Peripheral
>>>>>> Canal, and a fledgling UC Fresno.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These would be Federal Water Programs, and there is runoff for the
>>>>>> State.  These are huge projects like the Hoover Dam, yet desperately
>>>>>> needed if we are to have an Empire of 40 million people in  
>>>>>> California as
>>>>>> we have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The farmers are 80% of the water, and are Federal water.
>>>>>> The homes are 20% of the water, and are State water.
>>>>>> There is runoff from Federal to State.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For comparison purposes, Lake Mead and Lake Powell, the nation's two
>>>>>> largest reservoirs are 25 million Acre Feet of water each.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far, on, ca.water:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk
>>>>    The Hoover Dam cost $49 million to build in 1930, equal to $860  
>>>> million today.  Per Quora, we think it would cost much more today,  
>>>> closer to $10 billion.
>>>> https://www.quora.com/How-much-would-it-cost-to-build-the-Hoover-Dam-from-scratch-in-todays-dollars-and-under-todays-construction-rules
>>>>  If it cost $10 Billion
>>>>  The San Diego County Carlsbad Desalinization plant cost about $1  
>>>> billion to build
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_%22Bud%22_Lewis_Carlsbad_Desalination_Plant
>>>>  It produces 50 million gallons of fresh water per day or 18.25  
>>>> billion per year.
>>>>  If a dam allowing storage of 10 million acre feet, such as the  
>>>> Hoover Dam cost $10 billion to build, we calculate that 1 acre foot  
>>>> of water is 325,851 gallons, and 10 million acre feet of water  
>>>> 3,258,509,400,000, 3.2 Trillion gallons of stored water.
>>>>  We also calculate that 10 such desalinization plants as the one in  
>>>> San Diego County, costing $10 billion total, would produce 18.25  
>>>> billion x 10, 182.5 billion gallons of fresh water per year.  Or  
>>>> 500,000,000 gallons x 365 days, also 182,500,000,000 gallons yearly.
>>>>  We thus conclude, that because 3.2 trillion gallons is 17.85 times  
>>>> 182.5 billion gallons, dams still make more sense that desalinization  
>>>> plants.
>>>>   If you were storing only 1 million acre feet, it would still be  
>>>> 1.785 time more water to have damns.
>>>>  Maybe we can build desalinization plants more efficiently in the  
>>>> future?   Maybe there are economies of scale?
>>>>  If you stored 10 million acre feet, and the dam only cost $1 billion  
>>>> it would be 178.5 times more water.  However, we should not build  
>>>> damns that fail, and it should be a Federal project.
>>>>   If there is anything wrong with this analysis, please correct it.
>>>
>>> **What the fuck are "gallons", "acres" and "feet"?
>>>
>>> NO ONE on this planet uses those measurements, except an insignificant  
>>> 5% of the planet's population. Please use accepted international  
>>> measurements and re-post so everyone can understand.
>>  What a terminal fuckwit you have always been.
>
> **Just a reminder moron: I am not the one trying to use measurements  
> that no one on the planet uses, except Americans. Australia, like the  
> rest of the planet, uses Metric measurements

What a terminal fuckwit you have always been.