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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: "North Pole Could Be Ice Free In 2000, uh 2008, uh, 2014, uh,
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 11:46:38 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Tue, 3 Sep 2024 08:46:41 -0700,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2024-09-02 23:02, JTEM wrote:
> >   Alan wrote:
> > 
> >> Has the Arctic ice minimum fallen from 6.9 million square kilometres 
> >> in 1979 
> > 
> > You know the earth entered a cooling period around WWII which
> > didn't end until the late 1970s.
> > 
> > You're cherry picking. Why? What's special about 1979, or what
> > do you need to pretend is special?
> 
> That's when the satellite data begins.

So... Arctic ice never melted before that?

WHAT do you think it did in 1922, when CO² was 304ppm?

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the 
water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway.

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and 
hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has 
been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream 
still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report 
continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts 
which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

I apologize, I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922. As reported by the AP and 
published in The Washington Post - 88 years ago!

Do YOU know what the CO² level was in 1922?

304ppm.

As hot or hotter then, than now, with 100ppm less CO².    LOL

What about the times when it was warmer now and CO² was in the ~250ppm range?

https://i.imgur.com/H0qir89.jpg

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