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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Bitch Whines About Cherry-Picking, Then, Cherry-Picks
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:00:10 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 10:19:56 -0700,  Alan says...  

> >>> Just answer the question.
> >>
> >> I'll answer the question once I get a straight answer to mine.
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > You were asked first. Stop running.
> 
> Actually, no.
> 
> I asked him first.

Refute this first and I'll consider answering, faggot-1.

I "support" my claim with the post, you fucking faggot-kissing moron. 

I've shown you the quotes by the liars who said we're going to have ice-free Arctic Sea Ice.

I guess you agree that they were wrong, since you never showed they didn't.

You forget that there's more to this quote than just the 75% part.

"2009: There is a 75% chance that the entire North Polar Ice Cap during some of the summer months could be 
completely ice-free within the next five to seven years. You have sea ice, which is melting at a rate that 
the Arctic Ocean now increasingly is exposed. In five years, scientists predict WE WILL HAVE THE FIRST ICE-
FREE ARCTIC SUMMER."

Not all of these quotes have "could be's" and "may be's".

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over 
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

"A leading NASA ice scientist, Jay Zwally, said last year that the Arctic could be essentially ice-free 
within "five to less than 10 years."

In 2007, academics and politicians started making predictions of an IMMINENT ice-free Arctic. The BBC said 
the Arctic would be ice-free by 2013...

June 8, 1972, Christian Science Monitor: "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over 
the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000."

The BBC in 2007: 'Their latest modelling indicates that northern polar waters could be ice-free in summers 
within just 5-6 years.'

Professor Wieslaw Maslowski from the Department of Oceanography of the US Navy predicted an ice-free Arctic 
Ocean by the summer of 2013.

"So once again, the bottom line is that the Arctic summer is too short, and there's no way to achieve an ice-
free Arctic. 16 years ago, the experts were wrong because they don't understand basic physics. But *I* get 
accused of spreading misinformation every day because I provide accurate information about climate." - Tony 
Heller

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1)	Russian Drought and Famine of 1601--03 Killing one-third of 
	the population. 

2)	India... Deccan drought and Famine of 1630 -- 32 An estimated 
	two million perished. 

3)	Chinese Drought and Famine of 1907 In a matter of months an 
	estimated 24 million people were killed. (California 
	drought... HA, he said sarcastically)

4)	India Drought and Famine: Took place between 1896 and 1902, 
	claiming an estimated 19 million lives.

5)	Bengal Drought and Famine of 1770 An estimated 15 million 
	perished in the Drought and Famine

6)	Northern Chinese Drought and Famine Lasted from 1876 to 1879 
	and is believed to have killed 13 million people. 

7)	Indian Great Drought and Famine of 1876--78 This tragedy 
	that took the lives of as many as 10.3 million. 

8)	Russian Drought and Famine of 1921 It killed as many as 10 
	million.

9)	Soviet Drought and Famine of 1932--33 Between seven and 10 
	million were killed 

10)	Great European Drought and Famine Creating the worst Drought 
	and Famine ever seen in Europe, the Great Drought and Famine 
	of 1315-1317, also known as the Great European Drought and 
	Famine, was actually a series of crises. The tragedy, that 
	killed an estimated 7.5 million people, was caused by 
	strange weather and unrelenting rains.

11)	Bengal Drought and Famine of 1943 Killed between 1.4 and 4 
	million people

12)	Chinese Drought and Famine of 1928--30 Killed an estimated 
	three million people over the three-year span.

13)	Chinese Drought 1941 An estimated three million perished. 

14)	Vietnamese Drought and Famine of 1945 Overall, between 
	400,000 and two million perished as a result. 

15)	Bangladesh Drought and Famine of 1974 Estimates state 
	between 26,000 and one million perished in the disaster.

16)	1984--85 Drought and Famine in Ethiopia Killed an estimated 
	one million people in the region. 

17)	Horn of Africa Drought and Famine Over one million 
	reportedly died during that time in the areas of Ethiopia, 
	Sudan and Somalia. 

18)	Finnish Drought and Famine of 1866--68 Killed between 15 and 
	20 percent of the population in the area or roughly 150,000 
	people.

19)	Great Irish Drought and Famine One million in fatalities and 
	another one million in residents who emigrated as a result.