From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Electric car demand slumps to four-year low
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:26:05 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:36:11 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
> Biden and Trump agreed on at least
> one thing in debate: Support for
> electric vehicles
> SEP 30 2020
So? How many EVs are THEY buying? This isn't a partisan political issue. It's a M O N E Y issue. The GOVERNMENT
shouldn't BE in the car business. Did YOU ask your mommy if SHE wanted to help subsidize an industry that should be in
the PRIVATE sector ONLY?
Neither Trump's NOR Biden's feewings on EVs matter... it's what the PUBLIC feels.
BIDEN-HARRIS CLIMATE AGENDA COST TO TAXPAYERS:
$1.4 Billion for nationwide network of EV chargers
$101 Billion in EV tax credits (vs. $14 Billion originally estimated)
60% of tax credits for purchasing various "green energy" technologies - including EVs and solar panels - have
gone to the highest income earners in the country
How much of that has actually helped anyone other than the few that HAVE EVs?
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"Heat-Pump Sales Plummet by Almost 50% Across Europe"
Some BMW services are down. Climate and charging settings are not working. BMW Financial Services can't process sales
or payments.
EVS are a GREAT idea, but not at the expense of those who do NOT want one, or who those who do not want to pay their
tax monies to something that fails.
How much of THIS money, did we get back. Not our governments... US?
1. Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
2. SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
3. Solyndra ($535 million)*
4. Beacon Power ($43 million)*
5. Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
6. SunPower ($1.2 billion)
7. First Solar ($1.46 billion)
8. Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
9. EnerDel's subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
10. Amonix ($5.9 million)
11. Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
12. Abound Solar ($400 million)*
13. A123 Systems ($279 million)*
14. Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
15. Johnson Controls ($299 million)
16. Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
17. ECOtality ($126.2 million)
18. Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
19. Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
20. Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
21. Olsen's Crop Service and Mills Acquisition Company ($10m)*
22. Range Fuels ($80 million)*
23. Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
24. Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
25. Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
26. GreenVolts ($500,000)
27. Vestas ($50 million)
28. LG Chem's subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
29. Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
30. Navistar ($39 million)
31. Satcon ($3 million)*
32. Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
33. Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.
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Unreliable Nature Of Solar And Wind Makes Electricity More...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/04/22/unreliable-nature-
of-solar-and-wind-makes-electricity-much-more-expensive-major-new-study-finds
Solar panels and wind turbines are making electricity significantly
more expensive, a major new study by a team of economists from the University
of Chicago finds. Renewable Portfolio Standards...
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Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/04/25/yes-solar-and-
wind-really-do-increase-electricity-prices-and-for-inherently-physical-reasons
Transmission is much more expensive for solar and wind than other
plants.... electricity prices rose 21 percent while electricity from solar and
wind grew from 14 to 37 percent between 2009 and 2017.
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Are renewables making electricity more expensive? | Choose...
https://www.chooseenergy.com/news/article/renewables-making-electricity-
expensive
Advancements in solar and wind technologies have made these energy sources
significantly more affordable. Yet in California, a state which has always
championed renewables (especially solar energy,) the average residential
electricity rate is the 7 th highest in the nation, at 19.17 cents per kWh.
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Wind and solar power are even more expensive than is...
https://niceiphone11.com/2022/03/21/wind-and-solar-power-are-even-more-
expensive-than-is-commonly-thought
Happy Sunday from Software Expand! In this week's edition of Feedback Loop, we
talk about the future of Windows Phone, whether it makes sense to build media
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How much does wind power really cost? - World Economic Forum
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/04/how-much-does-wind-power-really-cost
But if Americans realized the full cost of generating energy from wind power,
they would be less willing to foot the bill - because it's more than most
people think. Over the past 35 years, wind energy - which supplies just 2% of
US electricity - has received US$30 billion in federal subsidies and grants.
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The Real Cost of Wind and Solar - American Thinker
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/the_real_cost_of_wind_and_sola
r.html
Wind or solar power actually costs around $80 per megawatt hour. How can I
claim that wind or solar cost $80 when power purchase agreements at $25 per
megawatt hour are often touted in the press...
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Cost of Transitioning to 100-Percent Renewable Energy - IER
https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/cost-of-transitioning-to-
100-percent-renewable-energy
If wind or solar replaced a 2-gigawatt nuclear power plant, and batteries
provided the only backup, 6 to 8 gigawatts of battery storage would be
required. The U.S. power grid has about 1,060 gigawatts of total capacity, of
which about 130 gigawatts is wind and solar capacity.
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The Real Cost of Government Mandated Wind and Solar...
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/10/the_real_cost_of_government_ma
ndated_wind_and_solar.html
A proper comparison reveals that wind or solar is five or even ten times more
expensive than natural gas or coal electricity. To understand why this is so,
we have to explain some basic facts that...
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THIS Is Why Chicken Shit Chicken Littles Screech About Climate And Weather And Global Warbling:
The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth
UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy'
Global Study Reveals Wealth Redistribution From Blue-Carbon Ecosystems
Failed Climate Policies Are About Wealth Redistribution
"We Redistribute De Facto The World's Wealth By Climate Policy."
How Global Warming Has Made The Rich Richer
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the-rich-richer
The U.N.'s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-on-capitalism-an-important-history-
lesson-2/?sh=4f89a2d429be
The Doha Wealth Redistribution Process Moves On
https://townhall.com/columnists/davidrothbard/2012/12/14/the-doha-wealth-redistribution-process-moves-on-n1465410
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"There is no doubt, that we need to have a complete transformation... the transformation of the economy, and that
includes, of course, the private sector."
A carbon tax will change NOTHING, other than the wealth of politicians and countries who beg us for money. THAT was the
purpose of the Paris Accord... the ONLY purpose.
Funny... when the government no longer pays for bogus money-grabbing data, the truth comes out.
"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
https://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI?t=74
"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."
AOC's Top Aide Admits Green New Deal About The Economy, Not Climate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-top-aide-admits-green-new-deal-
about-the-economy-not-the-climate
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff recently admitted that the Green New Deal was not conceived as an effort
to deal with climate change, but instead a "how-do-you-change-the-entire economy thing" -- a remark likely to fuel
Republican claims that the deal is nothing more than a thinly veiled socialist takeover of the U.S. economy. "The
interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all," Saikat Chakrabarti said in
May, according to The Washington Post.
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UN Official Admits That Climate Change Used As A Ruse To Control The World's Economy
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/diabolical-lie-called-climate-change-used-
un-promote-economic-agenda/
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"Unequal Distribution of Wealth and Power" Causes Climate Change
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/un-climate-summit-causes-of-
climate-change-unequal-distribution-of-wealth-and-power/
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U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-
destroy-capitalism/
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Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-
admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/
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United Nations Official Admits the Purpose of the Global Warming Hoax is to Destroy Capitalism
http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/donald-r-may/2015-02-
27/united-nations-official-admits-purpose-global-warming#.V-nGUOM1HmE
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wet places wetter and dry places dryer, except when it makes wet places drier and dry places wetter, except when none
of that changes at all, and then Global Warming screechers complain about that too!
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screechers complain about decreases in the spread of malaria.
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