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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Another High Latitude Initiated Atlantic Hurricane
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:06:21 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-09-30 04:28, JTEM wrote:
>   Alan wrote:
> 
>> Because a desert isn't defined by TEMPERATURE, doofus.
> 
> Speaking of which:
> 
> We do not exist in a vacuum. We have a climate history. The
> Sahara wasn't always this big desert. It used to be a lot
> greener. And then the earth warmed up and the desert formed.
> And presently that desert is reversing itself. Looking at
> the climate history of the planet earth, smaller means a
> colder planet and larger means a warmer planet. And it's
> getting smaller, according to NASA.

No.

The Sahara getting smaller does NOT mean a colder planet.

> 
> It's not the only such indicator.
> 
> The animals melting out of the Siberian "Permafrost," for
> example. It wasn't frost, not during to "Ice age." If it
> were no animals would have been in it! No, it froze over
> only LATER, only AFTER those "ice age" animals were buried.
> So conditions are the way they were during the "Ice age."

You have that completely wrong.

> 
> Permafrost = warmer. No permafrost = colder.

Also bullshit.

> 
> This is due to how the earth circulates the energy from
> the sun. Most of it falls along the equator and then from
> there it's circulated around the globe. Antarctica is as
> cold as it is because it's walled off by the circumpolar
> current, keeping the warm air from the equator from ever
> reaching it. The continent is actually much colder than
> can be accounted for by it's position as the south pole.

No. Energy from the sun falls in a way that is distributed based on the 
angle of incidence the sun's light makes with the surface.

> 
> The permafrost issue is similar. It's about HOW the planet
> circulates the energy from the sun. In fact, this is exactly
> why we are inside the Quaternary Period, our present ice age.
> The formation of the Isthmus of Panama changed the way the
> planet circulates energy, causing some areas to cool down
> considerably.
> 
> Still, it took hundreds of thousands of years for the deep
> ocean temperatures to plunge as low as they are now...
> 
> And yet, idiots think it all comes down to CO2.

You sound like a flat-earther.