From: R Kym Horsell <kymhorsell@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,can.politics,alt.politics
Subject: Re: "Green" Solar Panels
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 00:15:31 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: kymhorsell.com
In alt.global-warming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-10-04 16:37, R Kym Horsell wrote:
>> In alt.global-warming Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-04 14:34, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 13:55:51 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-10-01 01:40, R Kym Horsell wrote:
>>>>>> In alt.global-warming Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:19:24 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nebraska, USA: Within minutes, a single hailstorm reduced 14,000 solar
>>>>>>>> panels, worth millions of dollars, into a pile of toxic debris-leaching
>>>>>>>> materials like cadmium and lead into the soil.
>>>>>>> Lotta folks don't get how fragile hi-tech shit is.
>>>>>>> Dhu
>>>>>> Long gone are the days of servicing your own vehicle.
>>>>>> Apart from oiling some bearings you can't and sometimes are
>>>>>> prohibited by law from fixing your own car.
>>>>>> I was helping a neighbor recently and it turned out you
>>>>>> needed to break an old mil grade encryption to even ask it here it hurt.
>>>>> What kind of car was that?
>>>>> All cars built for sale in North America have had a standard OBD-II port
>>>>> that can be read by various scanners costing anywhere from $20...
>>>>> ...to a lot more depending on complexity.
>>>>> So what was that "mil grade encryption", hmmm?
>>>> You've not looked at automobile firmware, EVER, have you?
>>> You think you need to break the encryption on the firmware to get
>>> diagnostic information?
>> ...
>> Things are not usually as simple as you might hope. :)
>> Modern cars have a network.
> I'm quite aware of that, thanks.
>> The batteries, the fuel system, the
>> ignition, the dashboard, the lights, are all on a mini internet.
> No. It is NOT a "mini internet".
>> You think this is not encrypted? What if a thief got in there
>> and convinced the central locking system it has received a pass key
>> from a key or fob?
> Well since thieves ARE breaking into cars using the CANbus network, your
> thesis that it must be encrypted has already failed, hasn't it?
...
Circular logic. Why dont you imaging this involves "breaking encryption"? :)