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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:55:09 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-06 07:54, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 18:17:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-10-05 07:03, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:34:12 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-04 17:22, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 15:46, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words have
>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year touting the
>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before
>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The
>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming
>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters in a video
>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the key here
>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund remained
>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead
>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change continues to
>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been saying this for a long time. This is just another section of
>>>>>>> Biden/Harris' "America Last Program".
>>>>>>> It could not be any clearer.
>>>>>>> The Democrats don't care about the American citizens but instead prefer to
>>>>>>> coddle the illegal migrants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it is positively disgusting.
>>>>>> I know you have a problem understand nuance, but this isn't that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Congress sets the budget for FEMA and congress gave them the budget they
>>>>>> currently have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Republicans have the majority in the House and it's basically a tie
>>>>>> in the Senate.	
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if FEMA hasn't been given enough money to do their job, you know
>>>>>> where to look.
>>>>>
>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Illegal migrants receive among other things:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Free cellphones.
>>>>> 2. Room/board in 4 star hotels.
>>>>> 3. Debit cards.
>>>>> 4. Medical care.
>>>>> 5. Education.
>>>>>
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> People are better off being an illegal migrant to the USA than a legal citizen
>>>>> suffering due to a hurricane.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of that aid should be cutoff and the money used to help the citizens of the
>>>>> USA who are suffering right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get off your throne and realize that Biden/Harris favors the illegal migrants
>>>>> over the legal citizens and if you can't see this then you are an idiot.
>>>> What they get depends on money allocated...
>>>>
>>>> ...BY CONGRESS.
>>>
>>> Ok.  If you're going to rely on this as your claim of fact, please
>>> provide:
>>>
>>> The amount allocated to illegals via FEMA
>>> The amount dedicated to natural disaster relief via FEMA.  Ensure you
>>> include previous years amounts.
>>>
>>> Failure to provide this data is your admission you are lying.
>>
>> And you will, of course, provide proof of your claim that FEMA has
>> diverted funds it COULD have spent on disaster relief to illegal aliens.
> 
> You don't get to demand that I back up a claim when you're diverting
> from the fact you refuse to back up your own claim.

Sorry, but the diverting funds claim came first.

Or are you as senile as Trump that you can't remember what you wrote:

'Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
first.'

And that I provide a cite to back my claim that FEMA wasn't diverting 
funds in my very first replY:

'Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known left-wing source, 
Forbes:

'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money Because Of 
Migrants'

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump-fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because-of-migrants/>

'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster funds were 
rerouted to border-related efforts are “false,” noting the Disaster 
Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters and money meant 
for the fund “has not been diverted to other, non-disaster related efforts.”

Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA’s disaster fund, and the 
fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate additional 
funding for FEMA’s efforts in the stopgap funding bill it passed last 
month, only extending FEMA’s existing funding level and allowing it to 
draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'

That line in there: "declined to allocate"?

That was a link to this:

'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an explosion of 
wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from Democrats and the White 
House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to secure new 
funding for disaster victims.'

<https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as-disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>

So, bottom line:

FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any money meant 
for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind. '