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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 09:59:52 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-07 08:25, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> On 10/7/2024 3:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 07:52:50 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/6/2024 6:41 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024 16:35:13 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/5/2024 4:26 PM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/5/2024 7:32 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, NoBody
>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.coalt.fan.rush- 
>>>>>> limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.
>>>>>> guns,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.computer.workshop,m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:41:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 10:37, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words 
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year 
>>>>>>>>>>> touting the
>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness 
>>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United 
>>>>>>>>>>> States. The
>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of 
>>>>>>>>>>> Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle 
>>>>>>>>>>> upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters 
>>>>>>>>>>> in a video
>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the 
>>>>>>>>>>> key here
>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially 
>>>>>>>>>>> impacted
>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme 
>>>>>>>>>>> heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," 
>>>>>>>>>>> he added.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, 
>>>>>>>>>>> regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund 
>>>>>>>>>>> remained
>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from 
>>>>>>>>>>> Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he 
>>>>>>>>>>> anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change 
>>>>>>>>>>> continues to
>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously- 
>>>>>>>>>>> prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the 
>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should read the words of that well-known left-wing 
>>>>>>>>>> source,
>>>>>>>>>> Forbes:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'Trump FEMA Claim Debunked: Agency Not Running Out Of Money 
>>>>>>>>>> Because Of
>>>>>>>>>> Migrants'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/10/04/trump- 
>>>>>>>>>> fema-claim-debunked-agency-not-running-out-of-money-because- 
>>>>>>>>>> of-migrants/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'FEMA says on its website that any claims that disaster funds 
>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>> rerouted to border-related efforts are ?false,? noting the 
>>>>>>>>>> Disaster
>>>>>>>>>> Relief Fund is a dedicated fund for managing disasters and 
>>>>>>>>>> money meant
>>>>>>>>>> for the fund ?has not been diverted to other, non-disaster 
>>>>>>>>>> related efforts.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Congress determines how much money goes to FEMA?s disaster 
>>>>>>>>>> fund, and the
>>>>>>>>>> fund faces issues after lawmakers declined to allocate additional
>>>>>>>>>> funding for FEMA?s efforts in the stopgap funding bill it 
>>>>>>>>>> passed last
>>>>>>>>>> month, only extending FEMA?s existing funding level and 
>>>>>>>>>> allowing it to
>>>>>>>>>> draw from $20 billion in funds more quickly.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That line in there: "declined to allocate"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That was a link to this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'A pair of destructive hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, an 
>>>>>>>>>> explosion of
>>>>>>>>>> wildfires across the West and urgent pleas from Democrats and 
>>>>>>>>>> the White
>>>>>>>>>> House this month were not enough to persuade Congress to 
>>>>>>>>>> secure new
>>>>>>>>>> funding for disaster victims.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.eenews.net/articles/lawmakers-stunned-as- 
>>>>>>>>>> disaster-funds-left-out-of-stopgap-bill-2/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So, bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FEMA has a budget provided by congress and has not used any 
>>>>>>>>>> money meant
>>>>>>>>>> for disaster relief on immigrants of any kind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've had worse hurricanes seasons in the past yet never ran 
>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>> money.  Either establish that the budget has been cut or tell 
>>>>>>>>> us where
>>>>>>>>> the money went.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh and don't believe a damn thing FEMA says.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The money was already there.
>>>>>>>> The democrats raided it to pay for illegal migrant freebies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FFS. The Forbes article debunked that lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Immaterial.
>>>>>> FEMA is running out of money due to supporting illegal migrants.
>>>>>
>>>>> Repeating the lie doesn't make it the truth. FEMA is running out of
>>>>> money for disaster relief, but not because money was used for
>>>>> unauthorized migrants.
>>>> Department of Homeland Security Announces $300 Million in Direct
>>>> Funding to Communities Receiving Migrants and $340 Million for a New
>>>> Competitive Awards Process
>>>
>>> SFW. That money was not stolen from monies reserved for disaster relief.
>>
>> Look up the word fungible.
> 
> Congress specifies what money goes into the Disaster Relief Fund. DHS is 
> not authorized to divert money into the Relief Fund. Thus, the money is 
> not fungible from DHS's perspective (you can blame Congress if you wish).
> 
> https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45484

So why is it that only the people on our side of this argument can 
produce specific cites?

:-)