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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Help the illegals before the flood victims
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 16:42:47 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-07 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <ve1f3j$1p1n2$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-07 12:26, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-06, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 6 Oct 2024 12:13:24 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-06, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-10-05 07:03, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:34:12 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 17:22, pothead wrote:o
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-05, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04 15:46, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-04, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas' words have
>>>>>>>>>>>> come back to haunt him as video from earlier this year touting the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Federal Emergency Management Agency's (FEMA?s) preparedness before
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hurricane Helene exposed shortcomings in the organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas this week warned that FEMA was running out of funds as
>>>>>>>>>>>> hurricane season continued to slam the southeastern United States. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> organization has enough funds to deal with the aftermath of Helene but
>>>>>>>>>>>> would not have enough to "make it through the season."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This warning stands in stark contrast to previous comments Mayorkas
>>>>>>>>>>>> made in the summer assuring that FEMA would be able to handle upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather crises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "FEMA is tremendously prepared," Mayorkas assured reporters in a video
>>>>>>>>>>>> from July. "This is what we do, this is what they do, and the key here
>>>>>>>>>>>> ? is to also make sure the communities who are potentially impacted
>>>>>>>>>>>> are prepared as well."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LAWMAKERS OUTRAGED OVER FEMA FUNDING CONCERNS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "And it?s not just hurricanes and wildfires ? also extreme heat, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly some parts of the United States are experiencing," he added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed that FEMA has "exercised these muscles, regrettably,
>>>>>>>>>>>> year after year" due to the "increasing frequency and gravity of
>>>>>>>>>>>> weather events."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, Mayorkas did argue that FEMA?s disaster relief fund remained
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a precarious position and needed fresh funding from Congress ahead
>>>>>>>>>>>> of an expected heavy hurricane season. In July, he anticipated running
>>>>>>>>>>>> out by "mid-August."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mayorkas stressed the need to be ready for the "consequences" of
>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly severe weather events as climate change continues to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exacerbate disasters such as hurricanes and wildfires.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/mayorkas-claim-fema-tremendously-prepared-comes-haunt-him-helene-aftermath
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the money being spent on illegals should support the taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have been saying this for a long time. This is just another section of
>>>>>>>>>>> Biden/Harris' "America Last Program".
>>>>>>>>>>> It could not be any clearer.
>>>>>>>>>>> The Democrats don't care about the American citizens but instead prefer to
>>>>>>>>>>> coddle the illegal migrants.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it is positively disgusting.
>>>>>>>>>> I know you have a problem understand nuance, but this isn't that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Congress sets the budget for FEMA and congress gave them the budget they
>>>>>>>>>> currently have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Republicans have the majority in the House and it's basically a tie
>>>>>>>>>> in the Senate.	
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if FEMA hasn't been given enough money to do their job, you know
>>>>>>>>>> where to look.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Illegal migrants receive among other things:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Free cellphones.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Room/board in 4 star hotels.
>>>>>>>>> 3. Debit cards.
>>>>>>>>> 4. Medical care.
>>>>>>>>> 5. Education.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> People are better off being an illegal migrant to the USA than a legal citizen
>>>>>>>>> suffering due to a hurricane.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All of that aid should be cutoff and the money used to help the citizens of the
>>>>>>>>> USA who are suffering right now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get off your throne and realize that Biden/Harris favors the illegal migrants
>>>>>>>>> over the legal citizens and if you can't see this then you are an idiot.
>>>>>>>> What they get depends on money allocated...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...BY CONGRESS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok.  If you're going to rely on this as your claim of fact, please
>>>>>>> provide:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The amount allocated to illegals via FEMA
>>>>>>> The amount dedicated to natural disaster relief via FEMA.  Ensure you
>>>>>>> include previous years amounts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failure to provide this data is your admission you are lying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you will, of course, provide proof of your claim that FEMA has
>>>>>> diverted funds it COULD have spent on disaster relief to illegal aliens.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've posted the think twice already.
>>>>> Here it is for the third time.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://search.usa.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=fema&query=budget+2024&
>>>>> commit=Search+FEMA.gov>
>>>>>
>>>>> And why are we spending money on illegal migrants who are in effect getting far
>>>>> more than our own citizens who are suffering through a disaster?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in NYC alone it cost almost $400 per day to take care of an illegal
>>>>> migrant.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-cost-per-single-migrant>
>>>>>
>>>>> And people in the disaster area's get a $750 check.
>>>>> That's an insult.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can split hairs all you like but people are dying and according to those
>>>>> with boots on the ground the government response is slow, inept and apparently
>>>>> lackluster as well.
>>>>> Proof that Biden/Harris don't give a shit about those people.
>>>>
>>>> He'll never acknowledge the facts.
>>>> He will simply change the subject like he has already.
>>>
>>> Additionally, FEMA funds get reallocated to different buckets all the time.
>>> It's STOP.
>>> Jim Jordan and a former head of FEMA made mention of this several times
>>> yesterday.
>>
>> Cite please!
>>
>>>
>>> Call your congressperson to verify.
>>> I did, and it's true.
>>> And once again, flipping the script isn't working.
>>
>> And congresspersons never lie?
> 
> Yet you believe the media.
>>
>>>
>>> The point as you, Skeeter, Alleycat and others have made clear is that WHY are
>>> illegal immigrants given so many freebies and our own citizens suffering and
>>> dying after a disaster are not?
>>
>> Your own citizens are getting help.
> 
> Not as much as they should be.
>>
>>>
>>> And why does it take 10 days to begin mobilizing helicopters and so forth to
>>> reach "inaccessible areas" while private organizations are able to begin on day
>>> one?
>>
>> Prove that that's actually what happened.
> 
> You don't pay much attention do you?
>>
>>>
>>> Answer is the government is inept, poorly run and Biden/Kamala don't give a
>>> hoot about these people.
>>   > > Try watching the heartbreaking videos showing people begging for
>> help claiming
>>> they have not seen nor heard from FEMA.
>>>
>>> This is why I call democrats DEMONS.
>>> They are evil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a disgrace and Biden/Harris own it.
>>>
>>
>> And Trump is better; denying and/or delaying aid if he doesn't like the
>> governor of a state?
> 
> When did he do that? No liberal biased bullshit.
> 
> 

'Aides Say Trump Resisted Sending Federal Funds After California Wildfires

He changed his mind after being shown data that his supporters in the 
state had been affected, the former officials said. One called his 
approach “red states vs. blue states.”

...

Ms. Troye said the episode, which was previously reported by E&E News, 
was not the only time Mr. Trump resisted providing disaster aid to 
Democratic-leaning regions. She mentioned his response to sending aid to 
Puerto Rico after it was hit by hurricanes.
“We saw numerous instances — this was just one — where it was 
politicized,” Ms. Troye said in an interview regarding the California 
episode, adding, “It was red states vs. blue states.”'

<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/04/us/politics/trump-wildfire-aid-california.html>



'As president, Donald Trump wavered on decisions to grant federal 
disaster aid to states where he believed fewer people supported him, 
according to a new report from Politico that cites interviews with two 
former Trump administration officials.

One of the officials was Mark Harvey, who served on the National 
Security Council as senior director of resilience policy. He told the 
outlet that Trump initially did not want to send the Federal Emergency 
Management Agency to Southern California amid the devastating wildfires 
there in 2018.

“We went as far as looking up how many votes he got in those impacted 
areas ... to show him these are people who voted for you,” Harvey told 
Politico.

“There’s no empathy for the survivors. It is all about getting your 
photo-op, right? Disaster theater to make him look good,” he added.
He went on: “It was very much a business deal, like, ‘This a lot of 
money. What are we getting in return for it?’”'

<https://people.com/donald-trump-resisted-federal-disaster-aid-democratic-states-new-report-8723056>

<https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-disaster-aid-blue-states_n_66fee03ee4b09a8f848836e1>



'Donald Trump keeps pushing the vile claim that federal officials are 
withholding disaster aid from GOP areas devastated by Hurricane Helene. 
This has now backfired, focusing media attention on Trump’s own 
hyper-politicization of disaster relief as president. To wit: Two former 
Trump officials told Politico that Trump initially refused to approve 
disaster aid for California after wildfires in 2018 due to the state’s 
Democratic lean. We talked to one of those officials—Olivia Troye, a 
senior Homeland Security official in the Trump administration and now a 
leading critic of the former president—about Trump’s disastrous tenure, 
and what she told is is not pretty. Listen to this episode here. A 
transcript is here.'

<https://newrepublic.com/article/186765/shocker-trump-initially-denied-disaster-aid-blue-state-goper-says>

And they link to the podcast:

<https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-daily-blast-with-greg-sargent/id1728152109>

And provide a transcript:

<https://newrepublic.com/article/186767/transcript-trump-initially-denied-disaster-aid-calif-goper-says>




'In the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, former President Donald Trump has 
blasted the Biden administration for its handling of the disaster — 
going so far as to accuse Democratic leaders of ignoring the needs of 
Republican storm victims.

But a review of Trump’s record by POLITICO’s E&E News and interviews 
with two former Trump White House officials show that the former 
president was flagrantly partisan at times in response to disasters and 
on at least three occasions hesitated to give disaster aid to areas he 
considered politically hostile or ordered special treatment for 
pro-Trump states.

Mark Harvey, who was Trump’s senior director for resilience policy on 
the National Security Council staff, told E&E News on Wednesday that 
Trump initially refused to approve disaster aid for California after 
deadly wildfires in 2018 because of the state’s Democratic leanings.

But Harvey said Trump changed his mind after Harvey pulled voting 
results to show him that heavily damaged Orange County, California, had 
more Trump supporters than the entire state of Iowa.

“We went as far as looking up how many votes he got in those impacted 
areas … to show him these are people who voted for you,” said Harvey, 
who recently endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris alongside more than 
100 other Republican former national security officials.'

<https://www.eenews.net/articles/helene-isnt-the-first-time-trump-inserted-politics-into-a-natural-disaster/>



Are all these links wrong, doofus?

<<https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=trump+withheld+disaster+aid&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8>