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In article <ve6pad$2pdjc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> 
> On 2024-10-09 05:50, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <ve4qse$2guqq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2024-10-08 19:27, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <ve4hro$2brf7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2024-10-08 16:38, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <ve4e0u$2av81$12@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2024-10-08 15:48, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <ve429f$2a261$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 11:17, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <ve3qqm$28i14$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
> >>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
> >>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
> >>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
> >>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
> >>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
> >>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
> >>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
> >>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
> >>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
> >>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
> >>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
> >>>>>>>>>>> bill.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
> >>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
> >>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
> >>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
> >>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
> >>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
> >>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
> >>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
> >>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
> >>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
> >>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What a dumb question.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Explain why you think so.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why would he support a border bill that had very little to do with the
> >>>>>>> border?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If it was as terrible as was claimed, why would he oppose it?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nice flip.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's my original question.
> >>>>
> >>>> Trump killed this bill...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...because he wanted to keep things as bad as he could at the border...
> >>>>
> >>>> ...to help him win an election.
> >>>
> >>> Or it was full of pork.
> >>
> >> You can find the text and show that if you want.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> '?A Border Deal now would be another Gift to the Radical Left
> >>>> Democrats,? Trump said in a statement on Thursday. ?They need it
> >>>> politically.?'
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/27/trump-border-biden/>
> >>>
> >>> WAPO = bullshit
> >>
> >> You think they made up the quote, doofus?
> > 
> > Doesn't matter.
> 
> It does matter.
> 
> If you don't actually believe it was made up, then what does it matter 
> where I got the quote?
> 
> 'Former President Trump is dismissing an emerging Senate border funding 
> deal, calling it ineffective in securing the border and warning it would 
> be "another gift to the Radical Left Democrats."
> 
> "A Border Deal now would be another Gift to the Radical Left Democrats. 
> They need it politically, but don?t care about our Border," he said on 
> Truth Social.'
> 
> <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-senate-border-package-gift-radical-left-democrats>
> 
> 
> 'Meanwhile, Harris noted that Trump played "a pivotal role and killed a 
> bipartisan border security bill." Trump himself said in a January 
> statement that "a border deal now would be another gift to the radical 
> left Democrats. They need it politically, but don?t care about our 
> border. What is currently being worked on in the Senate will be 
> meaningless in terms of border Security and closure."'
> 
> <https://x.com/NewsHour/status/1833930471043903944>
> 
> 
> '?A Border Deal now would be another Gift to the Radical Left 
> Democrats,? Trump said on social media on Friday. ?They need it 
> politically, but don't care about our Border. What is currently being 
> worked on in the Senate will be meaningless in terms of Border Security 
> and Closure.? '
> 
> <https://time.com/6589254/border-biden-texas-trump/>

Doesn't matter.