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From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics
Subject: Freedum(plings)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 06:48:05 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider


here,

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/transgender-the-inability-to-distinguish-facts-from-wishes.html

we have an interesting, and useful, contemplation of what Freedom™ means
 to people, variously:

"
It goes to the foundation of the question of what is meant by the term
 freedom. There arw two main kinds of notion of freedom:

1. Absence of coercion from other humans in matters that should not be
 others' business, within a framework of serious morality and scientific
 understanding (e.g. no freedom to murder or wilfully or recklessly
 distribute poisons). Legal systems tend to present themselves as
 promoting such freedom, in the course of said legal systems' propaganda.

2. Absence of any restraint whatsoever on oneself, to the extent of
 placing burdensome constraints on others, generally coupled with a
 psychological need to seek freedom from reality and responsibility for
 one's own actions. "Thermodynamics is an unacceptable constraint on my
 freedom."

The second definition is often operative in law, especially in the
 definition of authority (aka the institutionalization of the combination
 of command power with freedom from responsibility for one's own actions,
 codified as immunity from prosecution), thereby giving lie to legal
 systems' pretensions to promoting the first kind of freedom.

Note Mussolini's progression from Anarchist, to Marxist, to Fascist. He
 clearly subscribed to the second rather than first kind of freedom.

Posted by: Johan Meyer (2) | Mar 14 2024 12:30 utc | 13

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  -- 
Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.  
 C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-) 
 Duncan Patton a Campbell