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On 2024-10-11 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vebjhv$3nnuq$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-11 05:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <ve9ta5$3btbs$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-09 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <ve6oiv$2pdmp$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 05:01, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 10:40:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
>>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it spent a bunch of money that did nothing to address the
>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That bill would have codified illegal immigration.
>>>>>>> It was a disaster and Republicans who were in favor of it obviously did not
>>>>>>> read the bill because it was awful.
>>>>>> Quote an "awful" provision of that bill.
>>>>>
>>>>> Money to Ukraine. That's not our border.
>>>>
>>>> Money for Ukraine was not in the last version of the border bill.
>>>>
>>>> You fail.
>>>
>>> Yes it was.
>>
>> Here's the text of the bill:
>>
>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text>
>>
>> Show it.
> 
> I can't be arsed to point out the obvious.

I'll state it clearly.

There is no text in the bill that provides anything to Ukraine.