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On 2024-10-12 12:12, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <veebb4$8f20$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-11 15:42, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vec63v$3qdue$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-11 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vebjhv$3nnuq$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 05:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <ve9ta5$3btbs$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ve6oiv$2pdmp$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 05:01, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 10:40:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spent a bunch of money that did nothing to address the
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That bill would have codified illegal immigration.
>>>>>>>>>>> It was a disaster and Republicans who were in favor of it obviously did not
>>>>>>>>>>> read the bill because it was awful.
>>>>>>>>>> Quote an "awful" provision of that bill.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Money to Ukraine. That's not our border.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Money for Ukraine was not in the last version of the border bill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You fail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the text of the bill:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't be arsed to point out the obvious.
>>>>
>>>> I'll state it clearly.
>>>>
>>>> There is no text in the bill that provides anything to Ukraine.
>>>
>>> I keep you busy don't I? Since you have no job to go to.
>>
>> You amuse me... ...a little.
>>
>> Now, quote the text you claim gives money for Ukraine in that bill.
>>
>> Or are you too chicken?
> 
> Is chicken the new word of the day?

You claimed the bill included money for Ukraine...

...but you can't produce it.