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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Kamela Harris on 60 minutes = FAIL
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:47:05 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-13 06:22, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <veeis1$90hi$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-12 12:12, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <veebb4$8f20$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-11 15:42, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vec63v$3qdue$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vebjhv$3nnuq$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 05:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <ve9ta5$3btbs$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ve6oiv$2pdmp$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 05:01, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 10:40:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spent a bunch of money that did nothing to address the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That bill would have codified illegal immigration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a disaster and Republicans who were in favor of it obviously did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> read the bill because it was awful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote an "awful" provision of that bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Money to Ukraine. That's not our border.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Money for Ukraine was not in the last version of the border bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You fail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes it was.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's the text of the bill:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't be arsed to point out the obvious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll state it clearly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no text in the bill that provides anything to Ukraine.
>>>>>
>>>>> I keep you busy don't I? Since you have no job to go to.
>>>>
>>>> You amuse me... ...a little.
>>>>
>>>> Now, quote the text you claim gives money for Ukraine in that bill.
>>>>
>>>> Or are you too chicken?
>>>
>>> Is chicken the new word of the day?
>>
>> You claimed the bill included money for Ukraine...
>>
>> ...but you can't produce it.
> 
> Maybe someone cowardly snipped it.

It's the congressional record, doofus.

Why can't you assholes just admit when you're wrong?