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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Kamela Harris on 60 minutes = FAIL
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:44:26 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-13 17:52, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vehkiq$s0ii$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-13 16:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <veh12p$occ8$9@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-13 06:22, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <veeis1$90hi$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-12 12:12, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <veebb4$8f20$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 15:42, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vec63v$3qdue$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vebjhv$3nnuq$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 05:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ve9ta5$3btbs$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ve6oiv$2pdmp$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 05:01, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 10:40:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spent a bunch of money that did nothing to address the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That bill would have codified illegal immigration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a disaster and Republicans who were in favor of it obviously did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read the bill because it was awful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote an "awful" provision of that bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money to Ukraine. That's not our border.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money for Ukraine was not in the last version of the border bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You fail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it was.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the text of the bill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't be arsed to point out the obvious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll state it clearly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is no text in the bill that provides anything to Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I keep you busy don't I? Since you have no job to go to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You amuse me... ...a little.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, quote the text you claim gives money for Ukraine in that bill.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or are you too chicken?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is chicken the new word of the day?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed the bill included money for Ukraine...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but you can't produce it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe someone cowardly snipped it.
>>>>
>>>> It's the congressional record, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> Why can't you assholes just admit when you're wrong?
>>>
>>> We're not.
>>
>> You are.
>>
>> If you weren't, you could quickly prove it by quoting the text from the
>> bill linked above to prove it.
>>
>> But you can't quote it...
>>
>> ...because you are wrong.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> We are never wrong. It's all E=MC   with a tiny 2.

And this is how you earned your new sobriquet.

:-)