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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Kamela Harris on 60 minutes = FAIL
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:00:46 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-14 10:59, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vejl9r$19kmg$14@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-13 17:52, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vehkiq$s0ii$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-13 16:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <veh12p$occ8$9@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-13 06:22, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <veeis1$90hi$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12 12:12, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <veebb4$8f20$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 15:42, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vec63v$3qdue$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 10:34, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vebjhv$3nnuq$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-11 05:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ve9ta5$3btbs$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 15:28, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ve6oiv$2pdmp$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09 05:01, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 10:40:38 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-08 10:34, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris was pressed by CBS News' Bill Whitaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about whether it was a "mistake" for the Biden administration to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> soft on its border policies during a tense exchange on Monday's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special election episode of "60 Minutes."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "You recently visited the southern border and embraced President
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers, and that crackdown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> border crossings," Whitaker said. "If that's the right answer now, why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't your administration take those steps in 2021?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> immigration system, knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need Congress to act. It was not taken up," Harris responded. "Fast
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afoot and could be passed, and he wants to run on a problem instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, 'Kill the bill,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't let it move forward.'"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I've been covering the border for years, and so I know this is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem that started with your administration," Whitaker said. "But
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there was an historic flood of undocumented immigrants coming across
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did?" Whitaker then asked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a long-standing problem, and solutions are at hand, and from day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one, literally, we have been offering solutions," Harris responded.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/media/60-minutes-asks-harris-whether-mistake-biden-admin-go-soft-border-vp-repeatedly-dodges?fbclid=IwY2xjawFyTABleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHU7b1A3i67zYH1ZuuRcDgOkGCtU25HYve9RL5lNUqEw1DXjdyJOP88WFjg_aem_oRywo9a6LtumpPT67x6Nsw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No she has not offered solutions.  That bill did nothing to strengthen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the border and repeating the lie doesn't make it true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the bill did nothing to strengthen the border...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...why did Trump want it killed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it spent a bunch of money that did nothing to address the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That bill would have codified illegal immigration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a disaster and Republicans who were in favor of it obviously did not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read the bill because it was awful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote an "awful" provision of that bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money to Ukraine. That's not our border.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money for Ukraine was not in the last version of the border bill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You fail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it was.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the text of the bill:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't be arsed to point out the obvious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll state it clearly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no text in the bill that provides anything to Ukraine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I keep you busy don't I? Since you have no job to go to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You amuse me... ...a little.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, quote the text you claim gives money for Ukraine in that bill.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or are you too chicken?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is chicken the new word of the day?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You claimed the bill included money for Ukraine...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...but you can't produce it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe someone cowardly snipped it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's the congressional record, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't you assholes just admit when you're wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> We're not.
>>>>
>>>> You are.
>>>>
>>>> If you weren't, you could quickly prove it by quoting the text from the
>>>> bill linked above to prove it.
>>>>
>>>> But you can't quote it...
>>>>
>>>> ...because you are wrong.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> We are never wrong. It's all E=MC   with a tiny 2.
>>
>> And this is how you earned your new sobriquet.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> I didn't know I was earning anything.

You being ignorant is not new.