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On 2024-10-15 10:04, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vem5u6$1ose0$12@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-15 09:20, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vem4b8$1ose0$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-15 05:32, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vekh1m$1dger$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 12:32, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vejlsq$19kmg$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:53, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vejlme$19kmg$18@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:40, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vejkoh$19kmg$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12 19:01, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:16:35 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUTWHATABOUT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except Biden didn't steal documents, Chicken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the documents he had were NOT for EX-VPs to have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Special counsel Robert Hur released a searing report Thursday that concluded President Joe Biden willfully retained
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and disclosed classified military and national security information."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The report found that Biden knew about the classified documents in his home as far back as 2017, when he was no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vice president, and that he shared some of the information with a ghostwriter for his memoir published that year."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read the entire report.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they want to have a trial then? Joe was found to frail to
>>>>>>>>>>> stand trial. WTF is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A traitorous act.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CNN: Facts First: Biden's claim that none of the classified material found in his possession was highly classified is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> false, according to details provided by the special counsel. Hur reported the discovery of documents in Biden's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possession that had markings identifying them as "Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information," a very high level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> classification - plus handwritten notebooks from Biden's time as vice president that weren't marked as classified but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that "contain information that remains classified up to the Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information level."
>>>>>>>>>>>> But do you stick to your story that it wasn't theft when Trump:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deliberately took documents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And denied he had them?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh, you poor little Chicken:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr.
>>>>>>>>>> Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and
>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the
>>>>>>>>>> allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would
>>>>>>>>>> present serious aggravating facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified
>>>>>>>>>> documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite.
>>>>>>>>>> According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents
>>>>>>>>>> for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to
>>>>>>>>>> destroy evidence and then to lie about it. In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned
>>>>>>>>>> in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of
>>>>>>>>>> Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his
>>>>>>>>>> homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with
>>>>>>>>>> the investigation.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? Biden was just as guilty.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned in classified documents to the National
>>>>>>>> Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the search of
>>>>>>>> multiple locations including his homes, sat for a voluntary interview.
>>>>>>>> and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All those are the exact opposite of "just as guilty".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you buy that fucking story?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's Robert Hur's account of the events, Chicken.
>>>>>
>>>>> The same guy that gave Joe a free pass?
>>>>
>>>> The Republican attack dog agrees that Biden probably took the documents
>>>> inadvertently when he left office...
>>>
>>> How do you "inadvertently" take classified documents? Not to
>>> responsible.
>>>>
>>>> ...and that Trump took documents deliberately.
>>>
>>> So?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who is Mr. Eiden?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An error in the OCR software.
>>>>>
>>>>> You need that to type a word?
>>>>
>>>> That's the form of the document from which I copied and pasted, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u8P0DSw5s5jinA1CRdd4eqoy2ABXazY_/view?usp=sharing>
>>>>
>>>> See the text there?
>>>
>>> Not bothering to look. After you started snipping I stop being serious.
>>>>
>>>> 'PDF Producer: Adobe Acrobat Pro (32-bit) 23 Paper Capture Plug-in'
>>>>
>>>> <http://users.wfu.edu/yipcw/atg/adobe/acrobat/adobe-acrobat-paper-capture.htm>
>>>>
>>>> You retype paragraphs and paragraphs, do you?
>>>
>>> Not at all. Why do you ask?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's the source I used:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And here's a screenshot of the page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jp2UQlLcebUqwRP9UrbTZkqaNZbPiVUG/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notice that the text it shows is "Biden" in that sentence.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you fucked up.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't notice that it OCR'ed a "B" as an "E"!
>>>>
>>>> How will I live with myself?!?
>>>
>>> By not being stupid.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it's a PDF with an image of the text in one layer and the OCR result
>>>>>> in a layer beneath so you can copy and paste the text.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does that have to do with Joe getting a pass for taking documents?
>>>> It lays out exactly why Hur (Republican loyalist) didn't recommend charges.
>>>
>>> Why didn't he?
>>
>> He said the evidence wouldn't prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
>>
>> Over and over and over...
> 
> Then why was a trial even brought up?
>>
>> Page 1:
>>
>> 'However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the
>> evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>
>> Page 4:
>>
>> 'Nevertheless, we do not believe this evidence is sufficient, as jurors
>> would likely find reasonable doubt for one or more of several reasons.'
>>
>> 'Several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges.'
>>
>> Page 200:
>>
>> 'But the evidence falls short of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that
>> Mr. Biden retained and disclosed these classified materials willfully.'
>>
>> Page 203:
>>
>> 'Nevertheless, for the reasons below, we believe this evidence 1s not
>> strong enough to establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>
>> Page 204:
>>
>> 'THE EVIDENCE FALLS SHORT OF ESTABLISHING MR. BIDEN'S WILLFUL RETENTION
>> OF THE CLASSIFIED AFGHANISTAN DOCUMENTS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT'
>>
>> Page 220:
>>
>> 'There is also insufficient evidence that Mr. Biden willfully retained
>> the handwritten Thanksgiving memo'
>>
>> Page 227:
>>
>> 'We conclude that this evidence does notestablish Mr. Biden's guilt
>> beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>
>> Page 232:
>>
>> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
>> willfully retained the notebooks'
>>
>> Page 242:
>>
>> 'We also believe some of the same evidence that supports reasonable
>> doubt for the classified Afghanistan documents also supports reasonable
>> doubt for the notebooks, including Mr. Biden's cooperation with the
>> investigation'
>>
>> 'Finally, the two main sets of evidence summarized above, suggesting Mr.
>> Biden knew he was not allowed to keep classified notebooks, do not
>> suffice to prove his willfulness beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>
>> Page 244:
>>
>> 'For these reasons, we do not believe the government could prove beyond
>> a reasonable doubt that Mr. B1den knew it was unlawful to retain his
>> notebooks at his home after the vice presidency.'
>>
>> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
>> willfully disclosed national defense information in the notebooks to his
>> ghostwriter'
>>
>> 'But we do not believe the evidence supports charges of willful
>> disclosure beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>
>> Page 247:
>>
>> 'But the evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he
>> intended to share classified information.'
>>
>> Page 304:
>>
>> 'Insufficient evidence exists to prove Mr. Biden willfully retained the
>> classified information in the EYES ONLY envelope
>>
>> There is insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
>> Mr. Biden intentionally retained the classified documents in the EYES
>> ONLY envelope after his term as vice president or caused his staff to do
>> so.'
>>
>> Page 311:
>>
>> 'Nonetheless, there is reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden willfully
>> retained documents A9 and A10.'
> 
> Look what I made you do...LOL

It was easy and fun.

I don't mind rubbing your nose in it that a Republican special 
prosecutor concluded that Biden wasn't guilty.