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From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: "I Was Trump?s Ghostwriter. A New Biopic Gets the Most Important Thing Right."
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:20:16 -0600
Organization: UTB

In article <vem7no$1ose0$21@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> 
> On 2024-10-15 10:04, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vem5u6$1ose0$12@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2024-10-15 09:20, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vem4b8$1ose0$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2024-10-15 05:32, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vekh1m$1dger$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2024-10-14 12:32, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vejlsq$19kmg$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:53, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vejlme$19kmg$18@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:40, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article <vejkoh$19kmg$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12 19:01, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:16:35 -0700,  Alan says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUTWHATABOUT
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except Biden didn't steal documents, Chicken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the documents he had were NOT for EX-VPs to have.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Special counsel Robert Hur released a searing report Thursday that concluded President Joe Biden willfully retained
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and disclosed classified military and national security information."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "The report found that Biden knew about the classified documents in his home as far back as 2017, when he was no longer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> vice president, and that he shared some of the information with a ghostwriter for his memoir published that year."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> False.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You should read the entire report.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would they want to have a trial then? Joe was found to frail to
> >>>>>>>>>>> stand trial. WTF is that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A traitorous act.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CNN: Facts First: Biden's claim that none of the classified material found in his possession was highly classified is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> false, according to details provided by the special counsel. Hur reported the discovery of documents in Biden's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> possession that had markings identifying them as "Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information," a very high level of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> classification - plus handwritten notebooks from Biden's time as vice president that weren't marked as classified but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that "contain information that remains classified up to the Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information level."
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But do you stick to your story that it wasn't theft when Trump:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Deliberately took documents.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And denied he had them?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Oh, you poor little Chicken:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 'It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr.
> >>>>>>>>>> Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and
> >>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the
> >>>>>>>>>> allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would
> >>>>>>>>>> present serious aggravating facts.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified
> >>>>>>>>>> documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite.
> >>>>>>>>>> According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents
> >>>>>>>>>> for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to
> >>>>>>>>>> destroy evidence and then to lie about it. In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned
> >>>>>>>>>> in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of
> >>>>>>>>>> Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his
> >>>>>>>>>> homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with
> >>>>>>>>>> the investigation.'
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So? Biden was just as guilty.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Nope:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 'In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned in classified documents to the National
> >>>>>>>> Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the search of
> >>>>>>>> multiple locations including his homes, sat for a voluntary interview.
> >>>>>>>> and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.'
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All those are the exact opposite of "just as guilty".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and you buy that fucking story?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's Robert Hur's account of the events, Chicken.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The same guy that gave Joe a free pass?
> >>>>
> >>>> The Republican attack dog agrees that Biden probably took the documents
> >>>> inadvertently when he left office...
> >>>
> >>> How do you "inadvertently" take classified documents? Not to
> >>> responsible.
> >>>>
> >>>> ...and that Trump took documents deliberately.
> >>>
> >>> So?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Who is Mr. Eiden?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> An error in the OCR software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You need that to type a word?
> >>>>
> >>>> That's the form of the document from which I copied and pasted, doofus.
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u8P0DSw5s5jinA1CRdd4eqoy2ABXazY_/view?usp=sharing>
> >>>>
> >>>> See the text there?
> >>>
> >>> Not bothering to look. After you started snipping I stop being serious.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'PDF Producer: Adobe Acrobat Pro (32-bit) 23 Paper Capture Plug-in'
> >>>>
> >>>> <http://users.wfu.edu/yipcw/atg/adobe/acrobat/adobe-acrobat-paper-capture.htm>
> >>>>
> >>>> You retype paragraphs and paragraphs, do you?
> >>>
> >>> Not at all. Why do you ask?
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There's the source I used:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And here's a screenshot of the page:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jp2UQlLcebUqwRP9UrbTZkqaNZbPiVUG/view?usp=share_link>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Notice that the text it shows is "Biden" in that sentence.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So you fucked up.
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't notice that it OCR'ed a "B" as an "E"!
> >>>>
> >>>> How will I live with myself?!?
> >>>
> >>> By not being stupid.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But it's a PDF with an image of the text in one layer and the OCR result
> >>>>>> in a layer beneath so you can copy and paste the text.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What does that have to do with Joe getting a pass for taking documents?
> >>>> It lays out exactly why Hur (Republican loyalist) didn't recommend charges.
> >>>
> >>> Why didn't he?
> >>
> >> He said the evidence wouldn't prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
> >>
> >> Over and over and over...
> > 
> > Then why was a trial even brought up?
> >>
> >> Page 1:
> >>
> >> 'However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the
> >> evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
> >>
> >> Page 4:
> >>
> >> 'Nevertheless, we do not believe this evidence is sufficient, as jurors
> >> would likely find reasonable doubt for one or more of several reasons.'
> >>
> >> 'Several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges.'
> >>
> >> Page 200:
> >>
> >> 'But the evidence falls short of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that
> >> Mr. Biden retained and disclosed these classified materials willfully.'
> >>
> >> Page 203:
> >>
> >> 'Nevertheless, for the reasons below, we believe this evidence 1s not
> >> strong enough to establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
> >>
> >> Page 204:
> >>
> >> 'THE EVIDENCE FALLS SHORT OF ESTABLISHING MR. BIDEN'S WILLFUL RETENTION
> >> OF THE CLASSIFIED AFGHANISTAN DOCUMENTS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT'
> >>
> >> Page 220:
> >>
> >> 'There is also insufficient evidence that Mr. Biden willfully retained
> >> the handwritten Thanksgiving memo'
> >>
> >> Page 227:
> >>
> >> 'We conclude that this evidence does notestablish Mr. Biden's guilt
> >> beyond a reasonable doubt.'
> >>
> >> Page 232:
> >>
> >> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
> >> willfully retained the notebooks'
> >>
> >> Page 242:
> >>
> >> 'We also believe some of the same evidence that supports reasonable
> >> doubt for the classified Afghanistan documents also supports reasonable
> >> doubt for the notebooks, including Mr. Biden's cooperation with the
> >> investigation'
> >>
> >> 'Finally, the two main sets of evidence summarized above, suggesting Mr.
> >> Biden knew he was not allowed to keep classified notebooks, do not
> >> suffice to prove his willfulness beyond a reasonable doubt.'
> >>
> >> Page 244:
> >>
> >> 'For these reasons, we do not believe the government could prove beyond
> >> a reasonable doubt that Mr. B1den knew it was unlawful to retain his
> >> notebooks at his home after the vice presidency.'
> >>
> >> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
> >> willfully disclosed national defense information in the notebooks to his
> >> ghostwriter'
> >>
> >> 'But we do not believe the evidence supports charges of willful
> >> disclosure beyond a reasonable doubt.'
> >>
> >> Page 247:
> >>
> >> 'But the evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he
> >> intended to share classified information.'
> >>
> >> Page 304:
> >>
> >> 'Insufficient evidence exists to prove Mr. Biden willfully retained the
> >> classified information in the EYES ONLY envelope
> >>
> >> There is insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
> >> Mr. Biden intentionally retained the classified documents in the EYES
> >> ONLY envelope after his term as vice president or caused his staff to do
> >> so.'
> >>
> >> Page 311:
> >>
> >> 'Nonetheless, there is reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden willfully
> >> retained documents A9 and A10.'
> > 
> > Look what I made you do...LOL
> 
> It was easy and fun.

You Kanadians are easily amused.
> 
> I don't mind rubbing your nose in it that a Republican special 
> prosecutor concluded that Biden wasn't guilty.

He didn't and you rubbed nothing You went to work because of me and I 
didn't even read it.