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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: "I Was Trump?s Ghostwriter. A New Biopic Gets the Most Important Thing Right."
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 15:05:40 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-10-15 11:20, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vem7no$1ose0$21@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2024-10-15 10:04, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vem5u6$1ose0$12@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-15 09:20, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vem4b8$1ose0$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-15 05:32, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vekh1m$1dger$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 12:32, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vejlsq$19kmg$22@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:53, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vejlme$19kmg$18@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-14 10:40, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vejkoh$19kmg$7@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-12 19:01, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:16:35 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUTWHATABOUT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Except Biden didn't steal documents, Chicken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the documents he had were NOT for EX-VPs to have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Special counsel Robert Hur released a searing report Thursday that concluded President Joe Biden willfully retained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and disclosed classified military and national security information."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The report found that Biden knew about the classified documents in his home as far back as 2017, when he was no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vice president, and that he shared some of the information with a ghostwriter for his memoir published that year."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read the entire report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would they want to have a trial then? Joe was found to frail to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand trial. WTF is that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A traitorous act.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CNN: Facts First: Biden's claim that none of the classified material found in his possession was highly classified is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> false, according to details provided by the special counsel. Hur reported the discovery of documents in Biden's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possession that had markings identifying them as "Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information," a very high level of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classification - plus handwritten notebooks from Biden's time as vice president that weren't marked as classified but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that "contain information that remains classified up to the Top Secret/Sensitive Compartmented Information level."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But do you stick to your story that it wasn't theft when Trump:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deliberately took documents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And denied he had them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, you poor little Chicken:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'It is not our role to assess the criminal charges pending against Mr.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump, but several material distinctions between Mr. Trump's case and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Biden's are clear. Unlike the evidence involving Mr. Biden, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> allegations set forth in the indictment of Mr. Trump, if proven, would
>>>>>>>>>>>> present serious aggravating facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most notably, after being given multiple chances to return classified
>>>>>>>>>>>> documents and avoid prosecution, Mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite.
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents
>>>>>>>>>>>> for many months, but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to
>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy evidence and then to lie about it. In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned
>>>>>>>>>>>> in classified documents to the National Archives and the Department of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Justice, consented to the search of multiple locations including his
>>>>>>>>>>>> homes, sat for a voluntary interview. and in other ways cooperated with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the investigation.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So? Biden was just as guilty.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 'In contrast, Mr. Eiden turned in classified documents to the National
>>>>>>>>>> Archives and the Department of Justice, consented to the search of
>>>>>>>>>> multiple locations including his homes, sat for a voluntary interview.
>>>>>>>>>> and in other ways cooperated with the investigation.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All those are the exact opposite of "just as guilty".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and you buy that fucking story?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's Robert Hur's account of the events, Chicken.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The same guy that gave Joe a free pass?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Republican attack dog agrees that Biden probably took the documents
>>>>>> inadvertently when he left office...
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you "inadvertently" take classified documents? Not to
>>>>> responsible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and that Trump took documents deliberately.
>>>>>
>>>>> So?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who is Mr. Eiden?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An error in the OCR software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need that to type a word?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the form of the document from which I copied and pasted, doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1u8P0DSw5s5jinA1CRdd4eqoy2ABXazY_/view?usp=sharing>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See the text there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not bothering to look. After you started snipping I stop being serious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'PDF Producer: Adobe Acrobat Pro (32-bit) 23 Paper Capture Plug-in'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://users.wfu.edu/yipcw/atg/adobe/acrobat/adobe-acrobat-paper-capture.htm>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You retype paragraphs and paragraphs, do you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not at all. Why do you ask?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's the source I used:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/report-from-special-counsel-robert-k-hur-february-2024.pdf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And here's a screenshot of the page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jp2UQlLcebUqwRP9UrbTZkqaNZbPiVUG/view?usp=share_link>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Notice that the text it shows is "Biden" in that sentence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you fucked up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't notice that it OCR'ed a "B" as an "E"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How will I live with myself?!?
>>>>>
>>>>> By not being stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But it's a PDF with an image of the text in one layer and the OCR result
>>>>>>>> in a layer beneath so you can copy and paste the text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does that have to do with Joe getting a pass for taking documents?
>>>>>> It lays out exactly why Hur (Republican loyalist) didn't recommend charges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why didn't he?
>>>>
>>>> He said the evidence wouldn't prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
>>>>
>>>> Over and over and over...
>>>
>>> Then why was a trial even brought up?
>>>>
>>>> Page 1:
>>>>
>>>> 'However, for the reasons summarized below, we conclude that the
>>>> evidence does not establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 4:
>>>>
>>>> 'Nevertheless, we do not believe this evidence is sufficient, as jurors
>>>> would likely find reasonable doubt for one or more of several reasons.'
>>>>
>>>> 'Several defenses are likely to create reasonable doubt as to such charges.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 200:
>>>>
>>>> 'But the evidence falls short of proof beyond a reasonable doubt that
>>>> Mr. Biden retained and disclosed these classified materials willfully.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 203:
>>>>
>>>> 'Nevertheless, for the reasons below, we believe this evidence 1s not
>>>> strong enough to establish Mr. Biden's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 204:
>>>>
>>>> 'THE EVIDENCE FALLS SHORT OF ESTABLISHING MR. BIDEN'S WILLFUL RETENTION
>>>> OF THE CLASSIFIED AFGHANISTAN DOCUMENTS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT'
>>>>
>>>> Page 220:
>>>>
>>>> 'There is also insufficient evidence that Mr. Biden willfully retained
>>>> the handwritten Thanksgiving memo'
>>>>
>>>> Page 227:
>>>>
>>>> 'We conclude that this evidence does notestablish Mr. Biden's guilt
>>>> beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 232:
>>>>
>>>> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
>>>> willfully retained the notebooks'
>>>>
>>>> Page 242:
>>>>
>>>> 'We also believe some of the same evidence that supports reasonable
>>>> doubt for the classified Afghanistan documents also supports reasonable
>>>> doubt for the notebooks, including Mr. Biden's cooperation with the
>>>> investigation'
>>>>
>>>> 'Finally, the two main sets of evidence summarized above, suggesting Mr.
>>>> Biden knew he was not allowed to keep classified notebooks, do not
>>>> suffice to prove his willfulness beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 244:
>>>>
>>>> 'For these reasons, we do not believe the government could prove beyond
>>>> a reasonable doubt that Mr. B1den knew it was unlawful to retain his
>>>> notebooks at his home after the vice presidency.'
>>>>
>>>> 'The evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden
>>>> willfully disclosed national defense information in the notebooks to his
>>>> ghostwriter'
>>>>
>>>> 'But we do not believe the evidence supports charges of willful
>>>> disclosure beyond a reasonable doubt.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 247:
>>>>
>>>> 'But the evidence does not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he
>>>> intended to share classified information.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 304:
>>>>
>>>> 'Insufficient evidence exists to prove Mr. Biden willfully retained the
>>>> classified information in the EYES ONLY envelope
>>>>
>>>> There is insufficient evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that
>>>> Mr. Biden intentionally retained the classified documents in the EYES
>>>> ONLY envelope after his term as vice president or caused his staff to do
>>>> so.'
>>>>
>>>> Page 311:
>>>>
>>>> 'Nonetheless, there is reasonable doubt that Mr. Biden willfully
>>>> retained documents A9 and A10.'
>>>
>>> Look what I made you do...LOL
>>
>> It was easy and fun.
> 
> You Kanadians are easily amused.
>>
>> I don't mind rubbing your nose in it that a Republican special
>> prosecutor concluded that Biden wasn't guilty.
> 
> He didn't and you rubbed nothing You went to work because of me and I
> didn't even read it.
> 
> 

LOL