From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 01:30:54 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>
>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>
>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>
>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>
>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>
>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>
>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>
>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>> BREATHE.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>
>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>
FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>
> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>
> If you let someone breathe pure nitrogen, they won't feel a thing as
> they slowly pass out.
Ok. So show me. I'll believe you when you demonstrate it.
Dhu
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