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On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past.  CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity.  Normally it runs
>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>
>>>>> No.  That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>
>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>
>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>
>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>
>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'.  Are you?
>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>
>>> An X-spurt?  Wazzat?
>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>
> 
> FAX, aye?  I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
> 
>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>
>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
> 
> Ok.  So you say it's no a lack of O2?

Yes. Precisely.

The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.

> 
>>
>> If you let someone breathe pure nitrogen, they won't feel a thing as
>> they slowly pass out.
> 
> Ok.  So show me.  I'll believe you when you demonstrate it.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw2HVX6K--8>