From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 03:07:46 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>
>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>
>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>
>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>
>>>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>
>>
>> FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>
>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>
>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>
>> Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>
> Yes. Precisely.
>
> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>
Ok.
Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
Dhu
>>
>>>
>>> If you let someone breathe pure nitrogen, they won't feel a thing as
>>> they slowly pass out.
>>
>> Ok. So show me. I'll believe you when you demonstrate it.
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw2HVX6K--8>
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