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On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past.  CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity.  Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.  That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'.  Are you?
>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>
>>>>> An X-spurt?  Wazzat?
>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> FAX, aye?  I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>
>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>
>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>
>>> Ok.  So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>
>> Yes. Precisely.
>>
>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>
> 
> Ok.
> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
They weren't my experiments, doofus.

And what I told you is fact.