From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 10:14:53 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:14:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
>>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>>
>>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>>
>>>> Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>>
>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>
>>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>>
>>
>> Ok.
>> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
>> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
>> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
> They weren't my experiments, doofus.
>
> And what I told you is fact.
Dr. "M" doesn't agree.
Dhu
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