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On 2024-10-27 03:14, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:14:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past.  CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity.  Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.  That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'.  Are you?
>>>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An X-spurt?  Wazzat?
>>>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FAX, aye?  I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>>>
>>>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok.  So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>
>>>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok.
>>> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
>>> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
>>> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
>> They weren't my experiments, doofus.
>>
>> And what I told you is fact.
> 
> Dr. "M" doesn't agree.
And who would that be?