From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 05:45:32 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 11:28:35 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-27 03:14, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:14:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>>>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
>>>>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>>
>>>>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok.
>>>> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
>>>> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
>>>> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
>>> They weren't my experiments, doofus.
>>>
>>> And what I told you is fact.
>>
>> Dr. "M" doesn't agree.
> And who would that be?
A little light on siense histry, are we?
Not to mention a rationale for representing fax...
Dhu
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