From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:52:36 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-10-28 22:45, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 11:28:35 -0700, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-10-27 03:14, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:14:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>>>>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
>>>>>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok.
>>>>> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
>>>>> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
>>>>> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
>>>> They weren't my experiments, doofus.
>>>>
>>>> And what I told you is fact.
>>>
>>> Dr. "M" doesn't agree.
>> And who would that be?
>
> A little light on siense histry, are we?
> Not to mention a rationale for representing fax...
I wouldn't called Megele a part of "science history">