From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: CO2 Seems To Be Highly Overrated
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2024 20:57:56 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 12:52:36 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-28 22:45, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 11:28:35 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-10-27 03:14, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Oct 2024 00:14:56 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-10-26 20:07, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 18:49:14 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-10-26 18:30, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 17:01:45 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 22:49, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 15:40:27 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-23 15:17, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:49:31 -0700, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-10-22 15:36, Dhu on Gate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 00:36:14 -0500, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The unaltered (raw) "maximum" temperature data (for July and August) from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the U.S. historical climatological network (USHCN) still shows our climate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was warmer in the past. CO2 seems to be highly overrated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a proxy for human industrial activity. Normally it runs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 0.04% of sea-level urth-normal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is ALSO toxic to mammals at anything over 30%:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5380556/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frankly speaking, it's a "kinder, gentler" way to go than, say, cyanide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or, for that matter most of that lethal injection shit):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you go to sleep and then your heart stops.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know nothing about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 is a HORRIBLE way to go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That pain you feel in your body when you hold your breath?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's caused by the build up of CO2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want something kinder and gentler to kill someone by what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breathe...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...use pure nitrogen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No. That's st8 up asphyxia.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. WHICH DOES NOT HURT.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's lots of video online of what happens to pilots (and others) who
>>>>>>>>>>> take the hypobaric chamber test.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The people who take that test don't even realize that they're running
>>>>>>>>>>> out of oxygen. They just get dopey and pass out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CO2 (*not* CO) causes unconsciousness *B4* the asphyxia kicks in.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It causes PAIN you idiot.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your body reacts to high levels of CO2 with PAIN; the panicked need to
>>>>>>>>>>> BREATHE.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyways, I'm no such an expert at dyin'. Are you?
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm obviously far more expert than you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> An X-spurt? Wazzat?
>>>>>>>>> I notice you couldn't refute a single fact I explained to you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FAX, aye? I'm sure you've lottsa them. Good for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you hold your breath and it starts to hurt...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...that is because of the build-up of CO2 in your blood.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok. So you say it's no a lack of O2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. Precisely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The biological urge to breathe is triggered by high CO2, not low O2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok.
>>>>>> Thousands might believe you, but I don't.
>>>>>> Your experiments proved a lot, but not that.
>>>>>> Now go unplug yourself, Mengele.
>>>>> They weren't my experiments, doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what I told you is fact.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. "M" doesn't agree.
>>> And who would that be?
>>
>> A little light on siense histry, are we?
>> Not to mention a rationale for representing fax...
> I wouldn't called Megele a part of "science history">
No, you wouldn't called it that.
Dhu
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