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From: Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking,aus.politics,nz.politics,can.politics,uk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: OT: "I'm Worried About Graham". ?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:39:20 +1100

On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:03:30 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>On 2024-11-10 14:36, Petzl wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 13:44:28 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2024-11-10 13:30, Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:54:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-11-10 12:34, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 07:15:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 06:11:44 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:48:19 -0700, Citizen Winston Smith
>>>>>>>> <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 4:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:55:19 -0700, Citizen Winston Smith
>>>>>>>>>> <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 2:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:16:23 -0500, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2024 11:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be practical too.  Trump fires his staff on a regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would be a time saver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep.  Remember his first term in office?  He acted like he was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV the show 'The Apprentice'.  What a shit-show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep hearing that, during his fist term, Trump had a team of
>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively sane, knowledgeable people around him, who mitigated the
>>>>>>>>>>>> damage he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you are wholly susceptible to MSM lies and mind control, so this
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> to be expected, as cognitive dissonance goes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But this time, he's surrounded by Trumpists, so it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be one big clueless circus. Ghe ghe.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aw...sniffle...sniffle...whine...cry...etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And it's not even YOUR country, you demented troll-assed loser!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Australia/New Zealand corporate media were also on a hate Trump trip!
>>>>>>>>>> People need to know there is no left or right in politics.
>>>>>>>>>> It's UP or DOWN.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uniparty collaboration globally makes the always true.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump in his four years of office had the USA, *UP*
>>>>>>>>>> Joe Biden's cartel had and has the USA *DOWN*!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Truth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Higher taxes/inflation
>>>>>>>>>> Taxes are what the IRS take
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The secret tax is government printing money, to cover wrought's
>>>>>>>>>> which raises tax by inflation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 100% yes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Example
>>>>>>>>>> In the 1980's were had "Nothing over a dollar shops"
>>>>>>>>>> Now you would be looking at maybe nothing over a $*** shops.
>>>>>>>>>> Groceries, fuel, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is so obvious, yet so vigorously denied by the real victims -
>>>>>>>>> consumers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have met the enemy, and he is us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1174441.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (if you've never read the late Walt Kelly, think of his Pogo strip as
>>>>>>>>> Animal Farm set to humor)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What scares me the most is not the fact that the media is lying to us.
>>>>>>>> It's the fact that some people still believe them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beats believing some nut case on rumble etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Better than "our ABC"
>>>>>> However I've been stating that printing money/devaluing is a secret
>>>>>> tax causing inflation Since the early 1970's!
>>>>>
>>>>> It's only a tax if it's the government that gets the additional dollars
>>>>> that have been "printed", doofus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any evidence that that has happened?
>>>>>
>>>> You don't buy domestic nations food?
>>>>
>>>> What did your steak cost in 1970's to now!
>>>> The increase is devaluation of your currency (a tax).
>>>> Printing money to prop-up government spending
>>>> devalues the national currency causing inflation (a tax).
>>>
>>> It's only a tax if the government is enriched by it, doofus.
>>>
>> It is used by Governments to hide they are massively overspending
>> their tax rate,
>> <https://www.usdebtclock.org>
>> 
>> Putin believes this is a weakness and is behind BRICS.
>> <https://www.omfif.org/2024/09/brics-considering-petroyuan-in-next-de-dollarisation-attempt/>
>>     https://t.ly/TiYlZ
>> Brics considering petroyuan in next de-dollarisation attempt
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Swiss with the exception of the Covid era (went to 0.8%) has had
>>>> negative inflation always, value of currency increasing.
>>>> The Swiss contain their spending to their tax income.
>>>
>>> The Swiss disagree:
>>>
>>> <https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/prices/consumer-price-index.html>
>>>
>>> There has been no month since March of 2021 where the consumer price
>>> index hasn't increased compared to the same month a year before.
>>>
>>> Not one.
>>>
>> Already said that?
>> "The Swiss with the exception of the Covid era (went to 0.8%) has had
>> negative inflation always, value of currency increasing.
>> The Swiss contain their spending to their tax income."
>> Screen shot of your site shows that
>> https://ibb.co/jMPpZfr
>
>No, it doesn't.
>
>They have positive inflation.
>
>That graphic shows positive inflation in every month since March 2021.
>
>"Value you of currency increasing" against OTHER CURRENCIES has nothing 
>to do with whether or not the country has experienced inflation.
>
>But in any case, you're wrong about the value of the Swiss franc 
>increasing against the US dollar.
>
Did not say that?
Were stating that printing money to cover over spending taxation
income is a increase on their citizens taxation through/by inflation

You keep changing/slant of the original question?

Swiss are affected by European Union Euro's, Swiss currency is 
Swiss Francs. 
European Union don't want to pay for defense, Trump  dont't/won't want
to pay their bills either
><https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CHF&view=10Y>
-- 
Petzl 
The problem with socialism is that you
eventually run out of other people's money.