From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking,aus.politics,nz.politics,can.politics,uk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: OT: "I'm Worried About Graham". ?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 13:21:22 +1100
On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:39:20 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:03:30 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-11-10 14:36, Petzl wrote:
>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 13:44:28 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-11-10 13:30, Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:54:27 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-11-10 12:34, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 07:15:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 11 Nov 2024 06:11:44 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:48:19 -0700, Citizen Winston Smith
>>>>>>>>> <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 4:04 PM, Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 14:55:19 -0700, Citizen Winston Smith
>>>>>>>>>>> <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2024 2:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 16:16:23 -0500, jmcquown
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j_mcquown@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/2024 11:56 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be practical too. Trump fires his staff on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basis so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would be a time saver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep. Remember his first term in office? He acted like he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TV the show 'The Apprentice'. What a shit-show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I keep hearing that, during his fist term, Trump had a team
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> relatively sane, knowledgeable people around him, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigated the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But you are wholly susceptible to MSM lies and mind control,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be expected, as cognitive dissonance goes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But this time, he's surrounded by Trumpists, so it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be one big clueless circus. Ghe ghe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aw...sniffle...sniffle...whine...cry...etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And it's not even YOUR country, you demented troll-assed
>>>>>>>>>>>> loser!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Australia/New Zealand corporate media were also on a hate
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump trip!
>>>>>>>>>>> People need to know there is no left or right in politics.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's UP or DOWN.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uniparty collaboration globally makes the always true.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump in his four years of office had the USA, *UP*
>>>>>>>>>>> Joe Biden's cartel had and has the USA *DOWN*!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Truth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Higher taxes/inflation
>>>>>>>>>>> Taxes are what the IRS take
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The secret tax is government printing money, to cover wrought's
>>>>>>>>>>> which raises tax by inflation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 100% yes!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Example
>>>>>>>>>>> In the 1980's were had "Nothing over a dollar shops"
>>>>>>>>>>> Now you would be looking at maybe nothing over a $*** shops.
>>>>>>>>>>> Groceries, fuel, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is so obvious, yet so vigorously denied by the real victims -
>>>>>>>>>> consumers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have met the enemy, and he is us.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/1174441.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (if you've never read the late Walt Kelly, think of his Pogo
>>>>>>>>>> strip as
>>>>>>>>>> Animal Farm set to humor)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What scares me the most is not the fact that the media is lying
>>>>>>>>> to us.
>>>>>>>>> It's the fact that some people still believe them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beats believing some nut case on rumble etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Better than "our ABC"
>>>>>>> However I've been stating that printing money/devaluing is a secret
>>>>>>> tax causing inflation Since the early 1970's!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's only a tax if it's the government that gets the additional
>>>>>> dollars
>>>>>> that have been "printed", doofus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any evidence that that has happened?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You don't buy domestic nations food?
>>>>>
>>>>> What did your steak cost in 1970's to now!
>>>>> The increase is devaluation of your currency (a tax).
>>>>> Printing money to prop-up government spending
>>>>> devalues the national currency causing inflation (a tax).
>>>>
>>>> It's only a tax if the government is enriched by it, doofus.
>>>>
>>> It is used by Governments to hide they are massively overspending
>>> their tax rate,
>>> <https://www.usdebtclock.org>
>>>
>>> Putin believes this is a weakness and is behind BRICS.
>>> <https://www.omfif.org/2024/09/brics-considering-petroyuan-in-next-de-dollarisation-attempt/>
>>> https://t.ly/TiYlZ
>>> Brics considering petroyuan in next de-dollarisation attempt
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Swiss with the exception of the Covid era (went to 0.8%) has had
>>>>> negative inflation always, value of currency increasing.
>>>>> The Swiss contain their spending to their tax income.
>>>>
>>>> The Swiss disagree:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.bfs.admin.ch/bfs/en/home/statistics/prices/consumer-price-index.html>
>>>>
>>>> There has been no month since March of 2021 where the consumer price
>>>> index hasn't increased compared to the same month a year before.
>>>>
>>>> Not one.
>>>>
>>> Already said that?
>>> "The Swiss with the exception of the Covid era (went to 0.8%) has had
>>> negative inflation always, value of currency increasing.
>>> The Swiss contain their spending to their tax income."
>>> Screen shot of your site shows that
>>> https://ibb.co/jMPpZfr
>>
>> No, it doesn't.
>>
>> They have positive inflation.
>>
>> That graphic shows positive inflation in every month since March 2021.
>>
>> "Value you of currency increasing" against OTHER CURRENCIES has nothing
>> to do with whether or not the country has experienced inflation.
>>
>> But in any case, you're wrong about the value of the Swiss franc
>> increasing against the US dollar.
>>
> Did not say that?
> Were stating that printing money to cover over spending taxation
> income is a increase on their citizens taxation through/by inflation
Still not taxation because it doesnt end up in govt hands.
> You keep changing/slant of the original question?
You are the one doing that, as always
> Swiss are affected by European Union Euro's, Swiss currency is
> Swiss Francs.
> European Union don't want to pay for defense,
More mindless pig ignorant bullshit now that Putin has invaded the Ukraine
> Trump dont't/won't want to pay their bills either
The USA isnt doing that now.
>> <https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=CHF&view=10Y>
Irrelevant to what is being discussed, your stupid ignorant claim about
TAXATION.