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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Once An Idiot... Always An Idiot - Ski Bunny Has To Pick Out The ONE Off-Topic Point From The REAL Point
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:10:03 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 12:26:42 -0800,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2024-11-10 12:17, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 10:15:45 -0800,  Alan says...
> > 
> >>> AND he's still to be adjudicated on the jury's decisions against
> >>> him.
> >> 
> >> What are you pretending that means.
> > 
> > Not "pretending" anything.
> > 
> > "You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt
> > against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still
> > has the power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of
> > acquittal."
> 
> Except he didn't DO that.

ANNNNNND hasn't "entered a judgment of guilt", either.

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On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 11:05:00 -0700,  Alan says...
"You snipped it."

From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 23:21:07 -0700
"...but you had to snip them all in your replay(sic)."

"Says the idiot that snips what he can't refute." - AC

From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:06:13 -0700
"...which is why you just snipped:"

Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 14:00:27 -0700
"Why do you think snipping text is such a flex?"
		**Why do YOU?**

From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:53:36 -0700
"So why did you snip all this?"

On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 18:53:36 -0700,  Alan says...  
"So why did you snip all this?"

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 19:28:14 -0700,  Alan says...  
Why can't you stop fucking lying to save face?

"What makes you think you can snip text to make your lies seem true?"

Name one lie.

<crickets.wav>

Don't ask accusatory questions about shit YOU do, hypofagcrit.

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Care to take a crack at any of the rest you deleted, hypocrite?

"You're not convicted unless the judge enters a judgment of guilt against you," explains Yale's Jed Rubenfeld, "And the judge still has the 
power... to throw out that verdict and enter a judgment of acquittal."

The judge hasn't entered the judgment of guilt yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a 
"convicted felon".

Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge 
has not entered a judgment of guilt.

See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.

Has the JUDGE entered a judgment of guilt? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the 
verdict and enter a final judgment?

Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT a convicted felon. Doesn't REALLY 
matter though... does it? (see below)

You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE 
HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK, this 
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's 
sentencing.

You lose again, loser.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending 
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage. 
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

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According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED 
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot 
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of 
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump 
verdict, hence

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Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge 
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this 
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's 
sentencing.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-
felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV

Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending 
on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's Marriage. 
Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.

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According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/

May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED 
FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a lot 
but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of 
major publications have used such language in their stories about the Trump 
verdict, hence

=====

Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon

Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge 
has not entered a judgment of guilt. He explained that in New York, this 
judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's 
sentencing.

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Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-
verdict-conviction-rcna154801

May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money 
conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of 
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.

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Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-
matters/index.html

May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald 
Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next obvious 
question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?

The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential 
candidates. They must:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

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Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY - 

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-
trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/

May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a 
crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN. 
His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...

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Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered

https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-
happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/

May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. 
Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become a 
felon. The only qualifications are the following:

Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.

Trump meets all three requirements.

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YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-
charges-voters-indictment

Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's 
nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal records from 
holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...

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What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME

https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/

May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will 
not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even if he were 
jailed.

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Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-
constitution-conviction

Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. 
WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted of 
felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...

COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?

YES.

THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM 
HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.

=================================================================================

Trump WINS!

Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.

Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris. 

Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.

Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, 
D.C. 

A Second Trump Administration

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Donald Trump will never be elected president of the United States - Harry Reid

He will never be President of the United States. - Elizabeth Warren (Pocahontas)

I have one thing to say... one thing only... and that is that this race is O V E R. Tomorrow morning the money will dry up, the Republicans 
will start to hide. Trump has no place to go... this race effectively, as of tonight, is no longer a presidential race. I will guaruntee, I 
mean, everything I know about presidential politics, and I've been through five of them, I've never seen one like this. This race
is over, you might as well accept it, and the question now is how do you minimize damage? And the only
way you can do that, it seems to me, is to try and grab hold some old conservative value things and do what Mondale did in '84, which is 
try and save a few people down the ballot. But as far as Donald Trump is concerned, it will never ever ever ever happen. - Bob Beckel

Do you think Donald Trumpkin win the nomination?

I think you can I think he possibly could win the nomination he cannot be President. He will never be elected president. - Mike Barnicle

Now, Donald Trump is not going to become president of the United States. Donald Trump will not be called President. - Bernie Sanders

What will you do if he becomes president? Is it time to leave the country?

He will never be president. - Rosie O'Donnell

What would you do if he did?

He will never be President. - Rosie O'Donnell

Donald Trump is not going to be President of the United States. He's not going to be President of the United States. He is not, Donald 
Trump is not going to be President of the United States take it to the bank. I will guaruntee it. - Nancy (crazy eyes) Pelosi

Donald Trump is not going to be present in the United States. -  Maria cardona

Let's be clear, Donald Trump will lose the election - Fareed Zakaria

I think Donald Trump be the nominee & will lose bad - Barney Fwank

I think that Donald Trump's campaign is over. There's nowhere for him to go when the inevitable happens, which is a very substantial 
landslide victory on November eighth. -  Mark Preston

The Presidential race is effectively over. Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the 45th president the United States. Chuck Schumer will be the 
majority leader of the United States Senate. - Steve Schmidt


I personally think this race IS over. - Joan Walsh

To me this race is over. - Unknown liberal pundit

Politico's latest survey of political insiders agrees, quote "Clinton will crush Trump in November - Rachel Madcow

There's not going to be a President Donald Trump. That's not gonna happen. - George Looney

I think that man will be President of the United States right about the time that spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs and red capes. 
Take it from me. How about that. - Tom Hanks

Donald Trump, just last week, he confirmed to the National Review that he is again considering a run in 2016. - Abby, MSNBC bobblehead

Do it. Do it. Look, look at me. Do it. I will personally write you a campaign check now on behalf of this country which does not want you 
to be President, but which badly want you to run. - John Oliver

And we better be ready for the fact that he might be leading Republican ticket. - Keith Ellison

Next. I know you don't believe that. - George Stephanopoulos

Which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning the general election?  - Bill Maher

Of the declared ones? Right now... Donald Trump. - Ann Coulter

Shock and disbelief in her eyes... Joy Reid

And so, right now, Mr. Trump... to answer your call for political honesty, I just want to say your not going to be President... all right? 
All, let's say cow poo poo aside, there is zero chance we'll 
be seeing you being sworn in on the Capitol steps with your hand on a giant golden Bible. - Stephen Colbert

Make a prediction note for you, and I don't really get into predictions much, but this one I'll go way out on a limb... Donald Trump will 
never ever be President of the United States. - Ron Reagan