From: Citizen Winston Smith <sss@example.de>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking,aus.politics,nz.politics,can.politics,uk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: OT: "I'm Worried About Graham". ?
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:21:50 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 11/10/2024 7:13 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Putin's populism is promising to not get conscripts involved in the
> invasion of the Ukraine.
Are you smoking dope?
https://ge.usembassy.gov/russia-uses-conscript-soldiers-for-war-in-ukraine/
In its brutal war against Ukraine , Russia relies on conscript soldiers
who are often unaware of their assignments and inadequately trained for
combat, independent media reports indicate. Vladimir Putin insisted on
several occasions that only professional soldiers and officers were
involved in Russiaâs âspecial military operationâ in Ukraine and that
conscripts would not be used. However, Russiaâs defense ministry
acknowledged on March 9 that it used conscript soldiers in Ukraine and
that some were captured by Ukrainian forces.
All men in Russia between 18 and 27 years of age are required to serve
in the military, but many obtain deferments to avoid conscription. âWhat
kind of trust could there be if Putin says one day that conscripts will
not be sent there ⦠and then the Defense Ministry recognizes that they
were there?â Alexei Tabalov, a lawyer who advises conscripts, told the
Associated Press. Russiaâs military includes 1 million troops , 400,000
of which are contract soldiers. Another 134,000 individuals were drafted
into the military on March 31.
Soldiers, families in the dark
Some relatives of conscript soldiers said they do not know the
whereabouts of soldiers fighting in Ukraine, according to Svetlana
Golub, head of the Soldiersâ Mothers Committee, an advocacy group for
soldiersâ rights in Russia. âThe families are being completely left in
the dark,â she told The Guardian. âI know the situation is really bad
when the families tell me they canât reach the soldiers any more.â
A Russian parliamentarian said one group of 100 conscripts was forced to
sign contracts for military service and then sent to Ukraine into
combat, according to the AP. Only four of them survived. The conscripts
said commanders told them they were being sent for military training
exercises only to discover they were going to combat zones inside Ukraine.
Forced conscription in Russia-controlled Ukraine
The Kremlin also forcibly drafts conscripts from parts of Ukraine that
it controls or occupies from Russiaâs 2014 invasion of Ukraine.
In the areas of the Donbas in eastern Ukraine that are under the Russian
governmentâs control, an estimated 135 conscripts sent to fight in
Mariupol put down their weapons in protest, according to Reuters. Their
commanders put the soldiers in a basement as punishment and threatened them.
One student in Donbas was sent by the Russian military to Mariupol with
no training and older rifles compared with those given to professional
soldiers. His unit experienced heavy combat. Members of the unit drank
water with dead frogs in it.
âThere were lots of casualties,â he said. âI hate the war. I donât want
it, curse it. Why are they sending me into a slaughterhouse?â
Residents of Crimea have been forced to serve in the Russian military
for the past eight years , ever since Russia occupied the region.
Residents are threatened with prosecution if they fail to do so.
Crimeans fighting for the Russian military against Ukraine were
identified after being taken as prisoners of war.
Looking elsewhere for recruits
The Kremlin also is looking to former Soviet countries and allies such
as Syria for new recruits to fight a war that is lasting much longer
than Putin had anticipated. Russiaâs government is so desperate for
troops it is offering expedited citizenship to immigrants as another
tool. Kyrgyz natives living in Russia are being paid to fight the
Kremlinâs war against Ukraine. Sardarbek Mamatillaev, a native of
Kyrgyzstan, received Russian citizenship recently and was told to report
for military duty. An estimated 30,000 Kyrgyz men who received Russian
citizenship are eligible for conscription. âI was told I must report to
the military office, otherwise my Russian citizenship could be
canceled,â Mamatillaev told Cabar.asia.
Men who are eligible for military service in Russia must serve in the
military even if they served in their native countries.
Putin also is relying on his ally, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Syria is recruiting troops from its military to fight with Russian
soldiers in Ukraine. The recruits are promised $3,000 per month, which
is substantially higher than their typical salary.