From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: So You're Telling Me There's a Chance!
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2024 13:06:43 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
https://i.imgur.com/zATG7ay.mp4
On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 09:34:22 -0800, Alan says...
> > Still didn't make him a "convicted felon". Provide it again, because
> > I'm not gonna waste my time looking for it, and we'll go over it and
> > look for the words that count.
> >
> > Until then... Trump is STILL not a convicted felon and might not
> > EVER be, since Judge Merchan...
> >
> > ... Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC
> > News
> >
> > https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-trump-hush-money-
> > case-delays-key-ruling-ahead-sentencing-rcna179763
>
> Did you read your own source, doofus:
> 'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
> payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
> wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> Did you read your own source, doofus:
>
> 'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
> payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels. He has denied any
> wrongdoing.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> Again:
>
> 'Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony when a
> jury in May convicted him on 34 counts of falsifying business records'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> > Judge Delays Decision On Tossing Trump's Hush Money Conviction - NBC
> > News
>
> You can't "toss" a conviction if he hasn't yet been convicted.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you whining about?
> 'Trump was convicted in May on 34 felony counts related to hush money
> payments made to adult film actor Stormy Daniels.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> 'He was convicted as a private citizen.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> 'A New York judge has delayed ruling on whether Donald Trump?s hush
> money conviction should be overturned in light of the Supreme Court?s
> ruling on presidential immunity.'
>
> You can't "overturn" something that hasn't already happened.
So... Still not a "convicted felon".
> 'Trump was convicted in New York of 34 counts of falsifying business
> records...'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> 'In May, Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records
> in connection to payments made to adult-film star Stormy Daniels in
> exchange for her silence about an alleged affair.'
Still didn't make him a "convicted felon".
> > Judge To Decide Whether Trump's Hush Money Conviction Can Stand
>
> That literally means he has been convicted.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
... Still not a "convicted felon".
> You can't "overturn" something that you claim hasn't happened yet.
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
... Still not a "convicted felon".
> 'Trump in May became the first U.S. president to be convicted of a crime...'
May?
You said above that it hasn't happened yet, so...
... Still not a "convicted felon".
> Again, you can't dismiss what hasn't happened.
Well... if he hasn't been convicted yet, what the fuck are you whining about?
> When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss charges...
>
> ...that means the charges have already happened.
>
> When a judge is deciding whether to dismiss a conviction...
>
> ...the conviction has already happened.
But you said it hasn't yet, so... ... not... ... yet... ... convicted.
> Seriously, you think these are supporting your claim?
Jes.
> EVERY...
>
> ...SINGLE...
>
> ...SOURCE...
>
> ...YOU PROVIDED...
>
> ...says that he WAS convicted...
> ...including the extreme right-wing National Review!
>
> You need to stop drinking before you post, Pussey.
But, still not a felon, since judgment hasn't been rendered.
=====
The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.
See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.
Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?
Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)
You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN
NEW YORK, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
You lose again, loser.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald
Trump's Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear
that term a lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language
in their stories about the Trump verdict, hence
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in
New York, this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
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Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801
May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.
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Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html
May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business
records, the next obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?
The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:
Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
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Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/
May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR
PRESIDENT AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...
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Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-
cohen-daniels/73920427007/
May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after
they become a felon. The only qualifications are the following:
Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
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YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment
Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with
criminal records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...
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What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME
https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/
May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential
campaign, even if he were jailed.
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Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction
Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be
convicted of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...
COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?
YES.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.
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Trump WINS!
Donald Trump is the 47th U.S. president, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Republican Donald Trump was elected President of the United States in the 2024 election, defeating Vice President Kamala Harris.
Trump, 78, will begin his second term early next year.
Donald Trump will be inaugurated as the U.S. President on Monday, January 20, 2025, on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington,
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