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Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:20:44 -0600
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On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 17:48:30 +0000, Lee says...
> > Sorry you mental midgets in California don't get to dictate the
> > composition of the US military.
>
>
> But five-draft-deferments billionaires do?
Wellll... you don't HAVE to be a billionaire. Millionaires will do, too.
Dear Col. Holmes,
"I am sorry to be so long in writing. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.
First, I want to thank you, not only for SAVING ME FROM THE DRAFT, but for being so kind to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been."
=====
To avoid being drafted into the Vietnam War during his college years, Bill Clinton used the political influence of a U.S. Senator, who employed him
as an aide. Col. Eugene Holmes, an Army officer who was involved in Clinton's case, issued a notarized statement during the 1992 presidential
campaign:
"I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator Fullbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted to
the ROTC program.
I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and
get a new draft classification."
=====
Clinton's Draft Avoidance
To give an illustration of how a prominent leader avoided the draft in
favor of college, I searched the Internet for Bill Clinton's ROTC letter
and his involvement in the Vietnam War demonstrations in England. The
following is what I found.
Bill Clinton's actions toward the draft was not a separate case, but his
actions, and those of his family and friends using influence were
reflected throughout the United States by thousands of other American
families. The vast majority of male students attending colleges and
universities were very concerned by and fearful of the draft. Most did
not go to Bill Clinton's extremes.
August 19, 1964 - Clinton registers for the draft
--[Washington Post Sep 13 92]
September 1964 - Clinton, age 18, enters Georgetown University
--[The Comeback Kid, CF Allen and J Portis, p. 20]
November 17, 1964- Clinton is classified 2-S (student deferment). This
will shield him from the draft throughout his undergraduate years.
---[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
February 16, 1968 - "The Johnson administration unexpectedly abolished
graduate deferments."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
March 20, 1968 - Clinton, age 21, is classified 1-A, eligible for
induction, as he nears graduation from Georgetown.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
Comment: Bill Clinton was the only man of his prime draft age classified1-
A by that draft board in 1968 whose pre-induction physical examination was
put off for 10.5 months. This delay was more than twice as long as anyone
else and more than five times longer than most area men of comparable
eligibility.
--[Los Angeles Times Sep 02 92]
Summer 1968 - Political and family influence keeps Clinton out of the
draft. Robert Corrado -- the only surviving Hot Springs draft board member
from that period -- concluded that Clinton's draft statement (the long
delays) was the result of "some form of preferential treatment." According
to the Times, "Corrado recalled that the chairman of the three-man draft
panel ... once held back Clinton's file with the explanation that 'we've
got to give him time to go to Oxford,' where the semester began in the
fall of 1968.
Corrado also complained that he was called by an aide to then Senator J.
William Fulbright urging him and his fellow board members to 'give every
consideration' to keep Clinton out of the draft so he could attend Oxford.
Throughout the remainder of 1968, Corrado said, Clinton's draft file was
routinely held back from consideration by the full board. Consequently,
although he was classified 1-A on March 20, 1968, he was not called for
his physical exam until Feb 3, 1969, while he was at Oxford.
Clinton's Uncle Raymond Clinton personally lobbied Senator Fulbright,
William S. Armstrong, the chairman of the three-man Hot Springs draft
board, and Lt. Comdr. Trice Ellis, Jr., commanding officer of the local
Navy reserve unit, to obtain a slot for Clinton in the Naval Reserve.
Clinton secured a "standard enlisted man's billet, not an officer's slot
which would have required Clinton to serve two years on active duty
beginning within 12 months of his acceptance." This Navy Reserve
assignment was "created especially for the Bill Clinton at a time in 1968
when no existing reserve slots were open in his hometown unit."
According to the LA Times, "after about two weeks waiting for Bill Clinton
to arrive for his preliminary interview and physical exam, Ellis said he
called (Clinton's uncle) Raymond to inquire - 'What happened to that
boy?' According to Ellis, Clinton's uncle replied - 'Don't worry about it.
He won't be coming down. "It's all been taken care of.' "
--[LA Times Sep 02 92]
Fall 1968 - Because of the local draft board's continuing postponement of
his pre-induction physical, Clinton is able to enroll at Oxford Univ.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
February 2, 1969 - While at Oxford, Clinton finally takes and passes a
military physical examination.
--[Washington Times Sep 18 92]
April 1969 - Clinton receives induction notice from the Hot Springs AR
draft board. Clinton however claims that the draft board told him to
ignore the notice because it arrived after the deadline for induction.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
June-July 1969 - Clinton receives a second induction notice with a July 28
induction date and returns home.
--[Wash Times Sep 18 92]
July 11, 1969 - Clinton's friend at Oxford, Cliff Jackson, writes,
"Clinton is feverishly trying to find a way to avoid entering the Army as
a drafted private. I have had several of my friends in influential
positions trying to pull strings on Bill's behalf."
-- [LA Times Sep 26 92]
Clinton benefited from yet another lobbying campaign in order to evade
this induction notice. "Democratic presidential candidate Bill Clinton,
who has said he did not pull strings to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, was
able to get his Army induction notice canceled in the summer of 1969 after
a lobbying effort directed at the Republican head of the state draft
agency." Arrangements were made for Clinton to meet with Col. Williard A.
Hawkins who "was the only person in Arkansas with authority to rescind a
draft notice. ... The apparently successful appeal to Hawkins was planned
while Clinton was finishing his first year as a Rhodes scholar in England.
Clinton's former friend and Oxford classmate, Cliff Jackson -- now an
avowed political critic of the candidate -- said it was pursued
immediately upon Clinton's return to AR in early July 1969 to beat a July
28 deadline for induction."
-- [LA Times Sep 26 92]
Comment: Jackson's statement is contrary to Clinton's repeated assertions
that he received no special treatment in avoiding military service. "(I)
never received any unusual or favorable treatment." [LA Times Sep 02 92]
August 7, 1969 - Clinton is reclassified 1-D after he arranges to enter
the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas.
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
According to Cliff Jackson, Clinton's Oxford classmate, Clinton used the
ROTC program to "kill the draft notice, to avoid reporting on the July 28
induction date, which had already been postponed. And he did that by
promising to serve his country in the ROTC, number one, to enroll in the
law school that fall ... and he never enrolled."
--[Wash Times Sep 17 92]
Comment - Clinton's admission into the ROTC program again runs contrary to
his repeated statements that he received no special treatment in order to
evade military service. Col. Eugene Holmes, commander of the University of
Arkansas ROTC program, said Clinton was admitted after pressure from the
Hot Springs draft board and the office of Senator J. William Fulbright (D-
AR).
Again, Clinton was receiving preferential treatment. In addition, records
from the Army reveal that Clinton was not legally eligible for the ROTC
program at that time. Army regulations required recruits to be enrolled
at the university and attending classes full-time before being admitted to
an ROTC program.
Fall 1969 - Clinton returns to Oxford for a second year. Clinton was
supposed to be at the Arkansas Law School. However, according to Cliff
Jackson, "Sen. Fulbright's office and Bill himself continued to exert
tremendous pressure on poor Col. Holmes to get him [Clinton] to go back to
Oxford."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
September 14, 1969 - The Arkansas Gazette, published in Little Rock,
headlined a draft suspension was reportedly planned by the President.
Comment - The article, citing a source, said Selective Service reforms
when implemented, would only permit the conscription of 19-year-old men.
In addition, the source said "the Army would send to Vietnam only
enlistees, professional soldiers, and those draftees who volunteered to
go." The source contended that these reforms, combined with troop
withdrawals, "would put pressure on the Congress to enact draft
legislation already proposed by the President ... and set up a lottery to
conscript only 19-year-old men," the Gazette reported.
From his letter to Col. Holmes, Bill Clinton said "....Finally, on Sept.
12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft
board,...... I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day
until I got on the plane to return to England.". It is very probable
that Bill Clinton was in the United States and well aware of the above
proposal on Sep 14, 1969. Bill Clinton was 23 years old.
September 19, 1969 - "President Nixon, facing turmoil on college campuses,
suspended draft calls for November and December of 1969 and said the
October call would be spread out over three months."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
The President also indicated that if the Congress did not act to establish
a lottery system, he would remove by executive order the vulnerability to
the draft of all men age 20 to 26.
Comment - Again, Clinton was 23 years old.
September-October 1969 - "At some point, Clinton decided to make himself
eligible for the draft and said in February 1992 his stepfather had acted
in his behalf to accomplish this. Newsweek, attributing the information to
campaign officials, said this all happened in Oct 1969. Clinton
spokesperson Betsey Wright ... said she believed it took place in
September. The difference is potentially significant. ... If Clinton did
not act to give up his deferment until October, he could have known he
faced no liability from the draft until the following summer, that he
could take his chances with the lottery and find alternative service if he
got a low number."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
October 1, 1969 - "Nixon announced that anyone in graduate school could
complete the full year."
--[Wash Post Sep 13 92]
Comment - Clinton is now safe from the draft through June 1970.
October 1969 - President Nixon suspends call-up of additional draftees
until a draft lottery is held in December.
October 15, 1969 - Clinton organized and led anti-war demonstrations in
London.
-- [Wash Times Sep 18 92]
Comment - According to McSorley, Clinton's demonstrations "had the support
of British peace organizations" such as the British Peace Council, an arm
of the KGB-backed World Peace Council.
October 30, 1969 - Clinton is reclassified 1-A, eligible for induction.
--[Wash Times Sep 28 92]
Comment - "Clinton said he put himself into the draft by contacting his
draft board in September or October and asking to be reclassified 1-A. ...
It is not clear, however, whether that occurred at Clinton's urging or
whether his failure to enroll at University of Arkansas automatically
canceled his 1-D deferment."
Clinton has never produced any evidence to substantiate his claim that he
initiated his reclassification.
November 16, 1969 - Clinton organized and led anti-war demonstrations in
London.
December 1, 1969 - Clinton draws #311 in the first draft lottery.
--[Wash Times Sep 18 92]
Comment - Clinton was virtually assured that he would not be drafted
because of the high lottery number.
December 3, 1969 - While still in England, Clinton writes to Lt. Col.
Eugene Holmes, , commander of the University of Arkansas ROTC Program and
states, "From my work I came to believe that the draft system is
illegitimate ... I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for
one reason - to maintain my political viability."
Clinton's ROTC Letter As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5550)
7/30/93