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Subject: LOL... Faggot Cuntnadian Doesn't Know Trump's A Billionaire - Everyone Else Without TDS Does - "Yes, Trump Is Still A Billionaire" - Forbes
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2024 17:24:32 -0600
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 17:05:21 -0800,  Alan says...  

> > He's richer than you.
> 
> Probably.
> 
> That doesn't mean he's actually a billionaire.

Too bad... he is.

YOU say he's not, and no, you can't play that bullshit liberal semantics game of "I never said he wasn't... I just said we don't know", ain't gonna 
fly here, faggot.

YOU say you don't know, and the only reason you say he isn't, is because we say he is.

That's all you EVER do here, playing the pedantic pussy contrarian. You have NO reason to say he's not, other than to be a troll.



"Forbes has assessed his wealth, currently estimating it at $5.5 billion as of mid-November 2024. Meanwhile, Bloomberg estimates his wealth at $6.32 
billion as of the same date..."

If Forbes and Bloomberg are "estimating" assets and liabilities, THEY know he's a billionaire... so... Trump IS a billionaire.

By all means prove me wrong, instead of using your faggot pedantic semantics, whining: "Weee donnnn't knnnnow if he issss, or nnnnot!", show us his 
holdings and assets and liabilities and PROVE he's not.

You can't, so you use that bullshit of "we don't know."

If you can't prove he's not?

PLONK!

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Yes, Trump Is Still A Billionaire - Forbes

News broke that Donald Trump paid $0 of income taxes in 2020, rekindling a longstanding theory that the former president is not actually a 
billionaire.

THAT THEORY IS WRONG. In fact, Trump's assets are worth an estimated $4.3 billion, making his net worth $3.2 billion after ACCOUNTING FOR $1.1 
BILLION OF DEBT. The former president owns real stuff-mansions, golf courses, office buildings-that throw off real cash, even if his tax returns 
might suggest otherwise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2022/12/22/yes-trump-is-still-a-billionaire-even-though-he-paid-so-little-in-taxes/

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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to 
the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases 
or stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 
characters were all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of 
hyperbole."

"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."

The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If 
Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of 
TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received positively by TDSers.

The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for 
late-night comics and nothing more.

Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. 
The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - 
nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."

Added Krauthammer:

"Some clinicians consider this delusion - that Americans can only get their news from one part of the political spectrum - the gravest of all. They 
report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, 
Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times - they remain unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor."

(If you don't realize the idea of TDS or BDS is - in no small part - meant in a tongue-in-cheek manner then, well, you may well have it.)

Trump allies believe that TDS is worse than ODS or BDS - by a lot. Wrote conservative pundit Bernie Goldberg on Real Clear Politics in early 2017:

"Before the election, the victims of TDS routinely compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Guess what. They're still doing it. Articles in respectable 
publications written by professors at elite universities are warning us to be on guard, that a Trump presidency could imperil democracy-as-we-know-it 
and may very well spell doom for American civilization.

"On election night, as it became obvious that their worst nightmare was about to come true, some libs fainted. Some vomited. Many more threatened to 
leave the country, but I'm pretty sure none actually did. As Donald Trump might say in a tweet: so sad!"

The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than the 
blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more broadly, the rise of presidential derangement syndromes is a function of 
increased polarization - not to mention our national self-sorting - at work in the country today.

We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any differently than us. We watch cable news that affirms what we already 
think. We read ideological "news" sites that tell us how good our side is and how bad the other one is. And on and on and on.

Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who disagree with us into the "deranged" category? To say that those who don't 
share our views are mentally deficient in some way?

What does it say about a President - and about a country - when the standard response to those with whom you disagree is that they must be crazy? 
Nothing good, for sure. 

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Many clinicians, political commentators, and members of the public have speculated upon the mental health of President Donald Trump. Indeed, over 
70,000 people self-identifying as "mental health professionals" have signed a petition declaring that "Trump is mentally ill and must be removed." In 
sociological terms, the "medical gaze" has been hitherto focused on President Trump, and to a lesser extent his ardent supporters.

However, in recent months, many have been questioning the direction of this "medical gaze." In fact, more and more people are suggesting that this 
"medical gaze" should be reversed and refocused on President Trump's most embittered and partisan opponents. Some have even suggested that these 
opponents are experiencing a specific mental condition-a condition which has been labelled "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS).
What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?

Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) known as the Diagnostic 
and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book contains 947 pages and lists hundreds of mental disorders; TDS is 
nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases such as MEDLINE and Google Scholar reveal no academic papers on this alleged syndrome. 
Officially at least, TDS is not a real, diagnosable, or treatable mental disorder.

That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document. Indeed, social scientists have 
long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders that are considered real conditions by the general public, even though 
they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include categories such as "burnout" or "nervous breakdown."

As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real mental condition.


Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk category rather than a professional category. As such, there is currently 
much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without consensus.

The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as "a characteristic combination of opinions, emotions, 
or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth suggestions about opinions, emotions and behaviors characterizing TDS.

Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President Trump trigger some people into distorted opinions, extreme emotions and 
hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed behavioral examples of TDS among Trump's political opponents, including 
fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces" and others demanding "therapy dogs." Political commentator Justin Raimondo focuses on 
opinions, language and cognition, writing in the LA Times that "sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a 
constant state of hysteria... the afflicted lose touch with reality."

Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. 
Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and 
loathing.

Contrariwise, many others ridicule the notion that TDS is anything but a malicious slur term used to discredit and delegitimize criticism of 
President Trump. For example, CNN's Chris Cillizza may speak for many when he stated: "The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of 
Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than blind hatred." Likewise, Adam Gopnik writes that "our problem is 
not TDS; our problem is Deranged Trump Self-Delusion."

In other words, there are polarized opinions about the nature, reality and existence of TDS.


Conclusion

The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend considerable time and energy behind closed doors pondering over the 
existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the DSM five times since 1952, considerably expanding the list of official 
mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am aware, few psychiatrists are currently arguing that DSM-6 should contain TDS as a mental 
disorder.

That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states that "a mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically 
significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior... mental disorders are usually associated with significant 
distress in social, occupational, or other important activities."

Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of President Trump, so 
much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such people may need mental health support. As such, further 
research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President Trump, in the same way that researchers investigate other extreme social 
phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by many as 
"Trump Derangement Syndrome."